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Kill the Culture and Burn the Pulpit Part 1: An Analysis of a revolution

Started by The Wizard, July 14, 2010, 09:14:30 PM

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Captain Utopia

Another way to try it:

Quote from: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/219103,senator-online-seeks-candidates-for-federal-election.aspxPolitical party Senator Online (SOL) is seeking "everyday Australians" to represent it in the next Federal Election.

Registered in August 2007, SOL claims to be Australia's "first and only internet-based political party", promising to conduct online votes on major issues and act in Parliament accordingly.

The party, which does not have any policies or an official stance, is currently seeking candidates from Victoria, Queensland, Western Australia, Tasmania and South Australia.

It has already appointed 27-year-old NSW Police officer Wes Bas as its candidate for NSW, inking a legal contract that compels Bas to vote in accordance with his online constituents.

Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

Captain Utopia

The horror of unintended consequences is a price paid for doing anything at all.

The consequences of apathy and cynicism are far more horrifying to me.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Captain Utopia on July 20, 2010, 03:28:09 PM
The horror of unintended consequences is a price paid for doing anything at all.

The consequences of apathy and cynicism are far more horrifying to me.

Sure, because ivory tower social planning has never gone horribly, horribly wrong before.
Molon Lube

Cramulus

In recent years, we've definitely seen the Internet's power to mobilize fringe factions. Smaller causes, projects, issues, subcultures, etc are able to quickly accumulate their own networks. I think things are looking a bit brighter for the fringes, which have better tools than ever to inform and gather support.

Captain Utopia

It's not an ivory tower social plan.

It's a mechanism to allow a society to plan for itself drawing upon unused collaborative capital vs. the failing institutions we're currently stuck with.

Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2010, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Utopia on July 20, 2010, 04:25:33 PM
It's not an ivory tower social plan.


How many real world application trials have you done?

It would be fun to watch the current shadow government cut all internet access to this new shadow government experiment.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Charley Brown on July 20, 2010, 04:45:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2010, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Utopia on July 20, 2010, 04:25:33 PM
It's not an ivory tower social plan.


How many real world application trials have you done?

It would be fun to watch the current shadow government cut all internet access to this new shadow government experiment.


It would be even more fun to watch this new shadow government in action.

Just saying.
Molon Lube

Captain Utopia

Quote from: Cramulus on July 20, 2010, 04:22:37 PM
In recent years, we've definitely seen the Internet's power to mobilize fringe factions. Smaller causes, projects, issues, subcultures, etc are able to quickly accumulate their own networks. I think things are looking a bit brighter for the fringes, which have better tools than ever to inform and gather support.

Yup, and this is both a good and bad thing.  For every cause which brings mutual benefit, you'll have things like the support groups which teach anorexic kids how to maintain their eating disorders.  I've no idea what the solution to that is, but it's here, and shows no signs of going away.


Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2010, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Utopia on July 20, 2010, 04:25:33 PM
It's not an ivory tower social plan.


How many real world application trials have you done?

Point.  But I'm not giving you a picture, I'm describing a paint set.  I'm not suggesting that I know any of the solutions to our political problems, but instead saying that institutions can benefit from external collaboration if handled correctly.  This is something not previously possible before many:many communication networks became widely accessible, and this principle has been verified in the real world online.

Captain Utopia

Quote from: Charley Brown on July 20, 2010, 04:45:02 PM
It would be fun to watch the current shadow government cut all internet access to this new shadow government experiment.


These are international projects.  If one country did cut access, then another country would still be moving forward.  Thing is, if these systems provide real value, then other countries will follow.  If there is no value, then nothing is lost.  I'm not big on conspiracy theories though.

The Wizard

I'm not sure if this E-Democracy idea would work or not, but at least it's an attempt to do something.
Insanity we trust.

Adios

Quote from: Captain Utopia on July 20, 2010, 04:52:33 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on July 20, 2010, 04:45:02 PM
It would be fun to watch the current shadow government cut all internet access to this new shadow government experiment.


These are international projects.  If one country did cut access, then another country would still be moving forward.  Thing is, if these systems provide real value, then other countries will follow.  If there is no value, then nothing is lost.  I'm not big on conspiracy theories though.

Do you think the current shadow government is a conspiracy theory? Seriously?

Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2010, 05:01:58 PM
Quote from: Captain Utopia on July 20, 2010, 04:50:15 PM

Point.  But I'm not giving you a picture, I'm describing a paint set.  

That was a cop out.

Big time.
What stage of planning are you at? How many committed member do you have? How many countries are currently involved?