Controlling firearms

[Adios]

They send in the helicopters in Iraq and Afghanistan too, all that does is piss off the local population more and more

The local population wold be turned into insurgents by the military and the media. If the helicopters weren't enough the military has lots of fun toys to play with.

Again all you do is piss off the population more. You kill one family, their neighbors and their friends rise up. Iraq, Vietnam, ect. ect. Next to genocide, which your not going to do with your own population, the only option is failure.
Of course I was speaking purely hypothetical, and I agree with Roger... I can't see this happening in this generation even with all the weirdness and hatred going on.

Yeah, the odds of it even being seriously considered, except by fringe lunatic groups is out of the question.

[Doktor Howl]

I actually think that people in the U.S. just like to shoot each other and feel powerful handling big, hevy and hard guns ready to OH FREUD WHERE ARE YOU?

Have you even picked up a rifle?

Of course he hasn't.  He has no idea what he's talking about, which is why he decided to be a twat.

[Don Coyote]

I actually think that people in the U.S. just like to shoot each other and feel powerful handling big, hevy and hard guns ready to OH FREUD WHERE ARE YOU?

Have you even picked up a rifle?

Of course he hasn't.  He has no idea what he's talking about, which is why he decided to be a twat.

I bet he has, once, but it was too heavy for him, all 8 pounds.

These problems would be solved if there more guns. Then guns wouldn't be big and scary to the little people.

[Doktor Howl]

I actually think that people in the U.S. just like to shoot each other and feel powerful handling big, hevy and hard guns ready to OH FREUD WHERE ARE YOU?

Have you even picked up a rifle?

Of course he hasn't.  He has no idea what he's talking about, which is why he decided to be a twat.

I bet he has, once, but it was too heavy for him, all 8 pounds.

These problems would be solved if there more guns. Then guns wouldn't be big and scary to the little people.

Meh.  He's been back twice, and left again.

I kind of figured.  He's a bullshitter.

[Adios]

I actually think that people in the U.S. just like to shoot each other and feel powerful handling big, hevy and hard guns ready to OH FREUD WHERE ARE YOU?

Have you even picked up a rifle?

Of course he hasn't.  He has no idea what he's talking about, which is why he decided to be a twat.

I bet he has, once, but it was too heavy for him, all 8 pounds.

These problems would be solved if there more guns. Then guns wouldn't be big and scary to the little people.

Meh.  He's been back twice, and left again.

I kind of figured.  He's a bullshitter.

It realized we weren't going to drink the pond scum it was trying to serve us. I say good riddance.

[Nawaxo]

Just my two eurocents: gun limitations actually means that more often than not people will not expect to find guns LEGALLY and won't feel a need to possess one to keep the egde. Most robbers bring a knife if anything, ARE ALREADY BREAKING THE LAW SO GUN CONTROL MEANS NOTHING TO THEM except in places bad enough to have everyone bring some kind of weapon. Beside, you're not going to fight an army of trained people with ultralight plasic assault weapons using a common rifle. Some people get shot with their own weapons actually.

Anyway! I guess if someone tried to do that in the U.S. right now you would have a lot of people feel deprived of any right to defend oneself and get an AK trough the black market.

BUT THERE IS STILL HOPE: the Swiss way!

Everyone gets his assault rifle, everyone is trained to use it efficiently.

Not really, it doesn't work like that. Stealing something here is a way less serious offense than doing the same thing with a gun, it's not either breaking the law or not doing so, there's a lot of stuff between "storming someone's house with assault rifles" and "a law abiding citizen". If people don't feel threatened to find armed resistance then they're just less likely to bring weapons themselves. Even with more restrictive policies here most murders are still performed with legally registered weapons, while many burglars just run for it if you surprise them in your house, or grab wathever comes in handy (like your gun). Your argument only applies to people that would really find no difference in 10 or 20 more years of jail: organized crime, mafia and such. You're still not going to do anything about that by yourself with a gun anyway .

It is my understanding that the Swiss are required to serve in their military (where they receive their rifle proficiency).  i can't get behind that.
It is also my understanding that, while they are each issued a rifle to keep at their house, they are also issued a certain limited quantity of ammunition, and they are not able to purchase ammunition freely, as we are here.  i couldn't get behind that either.  I like having the problem of wondering whether the foundation of my house is rated for the amount of lead in my closet....

Also, nobody promised "safe".  In fact, "safe" is the enemy of both fun and freedom.

simply wonderful. 

Well, you aren't going to learn how to use an assault rifle to check on your governement by practicing in your backyard. You don't get a driver license on simple trust, why not make sure you actually know what you are doing? Proper use of a weapon may actually require some commitment, having a gun doesn't make a warrior. For me it's either a strict regulation or "everyone handles the biggest gun a single man can handle". The latter would probably be better.

I actually think that people in the U.S. just like to shoot each other and feel powerful handling big, hevy and hard guns ready to OH FREUD WHERE ARE YOU?

You have just managed to reach the 'Fucking Idiot' level. Now go away.

Lol thanks for answering to sarcasm and not arguments. Beside, you really do need some training to effectively use an assault rifle. Deal with it.

[Doktor Howl]

Lol thanks for answering to sarcasm and not arguments. Beside, you really do need some training to effectively use an assault rifle. Deal with it.

What argument?  That anyone who owns a firearm is "compensating"?

You're a fucking idiot.  Please die of cancer.

[Don Coyote]

Lol thanks for answering to sarcasm and not arguments. Beside, you really do need some training to effectively use an assault rifle. Deal with it.

Yes, a lot of training. Firing an assault rifle is extremely difficult.

Anyone who has been trained with one knows what I am talking about. Everyone else will assume I am being facetious.

[Nawaxo]

Lol thanks for answering to sarcasm and not arguments. Beside, you really do need some training to effectively use an assault rifle. Deal with it.

What argument?  That anyone who owns a firearm is "compensating"?

You're a fucking idiot.  Please die of cancer.

LOL WUT

That whole sentence wasn't a real argument. I meant that piece of text above it.

edit: Oh, beside the first part. I actually think people in the U.S.A. like guns more than we do. That's why gun regulations is such a sensitive topic I guess.

[Doktor Howl]

Lol thanks for answering to sarcasm and not arguments. Beside, you really do need some training to effectively use an assault rifle. Deal with it.

What argument?  That anyone who owns a firearm is "compensating"?

You're a fucking idiot.  Please die of cancer.

LOL WUT

That whole sentence wasn't a real argument. I meant that piece of text above it.

edit: Oh, beside the first part. I actually think people in the U.S.A. like guns more than we do. That's why gun regulations is such a sensitive topic I guess.

No, I just hate assholes that try to simplify arguments by claiming that everyone who owns one is on some Freudian compensation kick.

In short, you.

Asshole.

[Adios]

Lol thanks for answering to sarcasm and not arguments. Beside, you really do need some training to effectively use an assault rifle. Deal with it.

Yes, a lot of training. Firing an assault rifle is extremely difficult.

Anyone who has been trained with one knows what I am talking about. Everyone else will assume I am being facetious.

well, having fired one on numerous with a great deal of accuracy, i will disagree.

[Nawaxo]

Lol thanks for answering to sarcasm and not arguments. Beside, you really do need some training to effectively use an assault rifle. Deal with it.

What argument?  That anyone who owns a firearm is "compensating"?

You're a fucking idiot.  Please die of cancer.

LOL WUT

That whole sentence wasn't a real argument. I meant that piece of text above it.

edit: Oh, beside the first part. I actually think people in the U.S.A. like guns more than we do. That's why gun regulations is such a sensitive topic I guess.

No, I just hate assholes that try to simplify arguments by claiming that everyone who owns one is on some Freudian compensation kick.

In short, you.

Asshole.

Sure, sure. Keep feeling angry about it if you like so. If I just wanted to simplify I would have only answered with that sentence tohugh.

[Adios]

Lol thanks for answering to sarcasm and not arguments. Beside, you really do need some training to effectively use an assault rifle. Deal with it.

What argument?  That anyone who owns a firearm is "compensating"?

You're a fucking idiot.  Please die of cancer.

LOL WUT

That whole sentence wasn't a real argument. I meant that piece of text above it.

edit: Oh, beside the first part. I actually think people in the U.S.A. like guns more than we do. That's why gun regulations is such a sensitive topic I guess.

No, I just hate assholes that try to simplify arguments by claiming that everyone who owns one is on some Freudian compensation kick.

In short, you.

Asshole.

Sure, sure. Keep feeling angry about it if you like so. If I just wanted to simplify I would have only answered with that sentence tohugh.

[Doktor Howl]

Lol thanks for answering to sarcasm and not arguments. Beside, you really do need some training to effectively use an assault rifle. Deal with it.

What argument?  That anyone who owns a firearm is "compensating"?

You're a fucking idiot.  Please die of cancer.

LOL WUT

That whole sentence wasn't a real argument. I meant that piece of text above it.

edit: Oh, beside the first part. I actually think people in the U.S.A. like guns more than we do. That's why gun regulations is such a sensitive topic I guess.

No, I just hate assholes that try to simplify arguments by claiming that everyone who owns one is on some Freudian compensation kick.

In short, you.

Asshole.

Sure, sure. Keep feeling angry about it if you like so. If I just wanted to simplify I would have only answered with that sentence tohugh.

Shut your cakehole, asswipe.  The fact that you said the sentence in the first place says everything anyone needs to know about you.

The fact that you thought you'd ever get a serious discussion here after saying that is what makes this really funny.

So fuck off.

[Don Coyote]

well, having fired one on numerous with a great deal of accuracy, i will disagree.

So by disagreeing you are saying it's hard or easy?