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Started by the last yatto, July 29, 2010, 07:32:30 AM

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Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: Nawaxo on August 10, 2010, 10:25:36 PM

I actually think that people in the U.S. just like to shoot each other and feel powerful handling big, hevy and hard guns ready to OH FREUD WHERE ARE YOU?

Fuck off, you arrogant little shit.

Thanks in advance.

Dok,
Erased the rest of his response when he got to that ignorant drivel.

Sorry Dok, didn't see this before I posted.

Doktor Howl

Interestingly enough, the stupid shit posts as if he were somewhere else, but his spelling ("practicing") is American.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 10, 2010, 10:36:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: Nawaxo on August 10, 2010, 10:25:36 PM

I actually think that people in the U.S. just like to shoot each other and feel powerful handling big, hevy and hard guns ready to OH FREUD WHERE ARE YOU?

Fuck off, you arrogant little shit.

Thanks in advance.

Dok,
Erased the rest of his response when he got to that ignorant drivel.

Sorry Dok, didn't see this before I posted.

No problem.

Where do we get these assbags?  I mean, shit, "YOU HAVE A DIFFERING OPINION FROM MINE, SO I MUST PSYCHOANALYZE YOU" is got to be the stupidest fucking attitude on the internet, and that's saying something.
Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 10, 2010, 10:36:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: Nawaxo on August 10, 2010, 10:25:36 PM

I actually think that people in the U.S. just like to shoot each other and feel powerful handling big, hevy and hard guns ready to OH FREUD WHERE ARE YOU?

Fuck off, you arrogant little shit.

Thanks in advance.

Dok,
Erased the rest of his response when he got to that ignorant drivel.

Sorry Dok, didn't see this before I posted.

No problem.

Where do we get these assbags?  I mean, shit, "YOU HAVE A DIFFERING OPINION FROM MINE, SO I MUST PSYCHOANALYZE YOU" is got to be the stupidest fucking attitude on the internet, and that's saying something.

Agreed. Probably some teen spouting nonsense they heard from an adult.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 10, 2010, 10:42:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 10, 2010, 10:36:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: Nawaxo on August 10, 2010, 10:25:36 PM

I actually think that people in the U.S. just like to shoot each other and feel powerful handling big, hevy and hard guns ready to OH FREUD WHERE ARE YOU?

Fuck off, you arrogant little shit.

Thanks in advance.

Dok,
Erased the rest of his response when he got to that ignorant drivel.

Sorry Dok, didn't see this before I posted.

No problem.

Where do we get these assbags?  I mean, shit, "YOU HAVE A DIFFERING OPINION FROM MINE, SO I MUST PSYCHOANALYZE YOU" is got to be the stupidest fucking attitude on the internet, and that's saying something.

Agreed. Probably some teen spouting nonsense they heard from an adult.

Or just another stupid hippie, resorting to appeal to ridicule.  There's no shortage of those.  In any case, he's proved - in one post - that he isn't intelligent enough to have a discussion. 

Molon Lube

Thurnez Isa

Quote from: Pēleus on August 09, 2010, 03:04:44 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce link=topic=25906.msg906730#msg906730
But today, if you wanted to really wage a war against, say, a corrupt US government from the continental US, you'd need a lot more than rifleman.  You need some way to counter ballistic missiles, stealth bombers, battleships, and chemical warfare.  If the government is determined, you'd need to break their military infrastructure to make them leave you alone for good...

I agree you need more then a riflemen but the other stuff not so much, IRA and the weathermen didn't rely on those. I don't know enough about fifth generation warfare but today id take a PR firm over a nuke. A cause is the factor in both your examples but the later one you seem to ignore that fact. Irish had their hate of british to unite em, wm had the treatment of soldiers who refused to fight.

Cameras are often treated as weapons on the battlefield...

Dok/charley,
Would membership requirement in say NRA be really considered bad?

If you learn from the resent insurgences the American militias could do quite a lot of damage to government forces with just assault rifles and RPG's if they have some good knowledge of the country (which they do), have some crazy religious drivel to bound them together (which they do) and have enough support from the local population (which Im not sure of)
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

Adios

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on August 10, 2010, 10:44:35 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on August 09, 2010, 03:04:44 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce link=topic=25906.msg906730#msg906730
But today, if you wanted to really wage a war against, say, a corrupt US government from the continental US, you'd need a lot more than rifleman.  You need some way to counter ballistic missiles, stealth bombers, battleships, and chemical warfare.  If the government is determined, you'd need to break their military infrastructure to make them leave you alone for good...

I agree you need more then a riflemen but the other stuff not so much, IRA and the weathermen didn't rely on those. I don't know enough about fifth generation warfare but today id take a PR firm over a nuke. A cause is the factor in both your examples but the later one you seem to ignore that fact. Irish had their hate of british to unite em, wm had the treatment of soldiers who refused to fight.

Cameras are often treated as weapons on the battlefield...

Dok/charley,
Would membership requirement in say NRA be really considered bad?

If you learn from the resent insurgences the American militias could do quite a lot of damage to government forces with just assault rifles and RPG's if they have some good knowledge of the country (which they do), have some crazy religious drivel to bound them together (which they do) and have enough support from the local population (which Im not sure of)

Right up until the assault helicopters showed up.

Thurnez Isa

They send in the helicopters in Iraq and Afghanistan too, all that does is piss off the local population more and more
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

Doktor Howl

Here's the deal:  Guns are FUN.  Remember FUN?  It's that shit we have, and that asstards like Nowaxo had, before they became fanatical fucked up little hipsters that think they can psychoanalyze everyone that disagrees with them.  

I don't need to excuse owning guns, because Madison already did that for me.  I don't need to excuse having fun, because stupid little hipsters like Nowaxo aren't worth the time it would take to explain the concept.

That's why you don't often hear me talk about the defense aspect (which is negligible) or the tyranny aspect (which is a joke) of gun ownership.  I own guns because I like to go into the Santa Ritas and shoot them.

But it can't be that simple, right?  No, it has to be tied to my dick, somehow.

Stupid fucking hippie.   :lulz:
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on August 10, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
They send in the helicopters in Iraq and Afghanistan too, all that does is piss off the local population more and more

Difference:  Americans are cowards.
Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on August 10, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
They send in the helicopters in Iraq and Afghanistan too, all that does is piss off the local population more and more

The local population wold be turned into insurgents by the military and the media. If the helicopters weren't enough the military has lots of fun toys to play with.

Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 10:50:38 PM
Here's the deal:  Guns are FUN.  Remember FUN?  It's that shit we have, and that asstards like Nowaxo had, before they became fanatical fucked up little hipsters that think they can psychoanalyze everyone that disagrees with them.  

I don't need to excuse owning guns, because Madison already did that for me.  I don't need to excuse having fun, because stupid little hipsters like Nowaxo aren't worth the time it would take to explain the concept.

That's why you don't often hear me talk about the defense aspect (which is negligible) or the tyranny aspect (which is a joke) of gun ownership.  I own guns because I like to go into the Santa Ritas and shoot them.

But it can't be that simple, right?  No, it has to be tied to my dick, somehow.

Stupid fucking hippie.   :lulz:

This. I remember teaching myself to use an assault rifle. Took about 5 minutes. Burned a shit load of ammo that day.

Thurnez Isa

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 10:50:56 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on August 10, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
They send in the helicopters in Iraq and Afghanistan too, all that does is piss off the local population more and more

Difference:  Americans are cowards.

I may agree with this. After only 10 years in Afghanistan and even the Conservatives are rolling over now. Newsflash Guerrilla wars can last generations. If you don't like this, don't get involved, once involved expect to be there for a long long time. Also there are some cooks that are willing to kill and die right now... but I don't know if that runs really deep through the movement. I guess it depends how desperate they get.
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

Thurnez Isa

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 10, 2010, 10:51:15 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on August 10, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
They send in the helicopters in Iraq and Afghanistan too, all that does is piss off the local population more and more

The local population wold be turned into insurgents by the military and the media. If the helicopters weren't enough the military has lots of fun toys to play with.

Again all you do is piss off the population more. You kill one family, their neighbors and their friends rise up. Iraq, Vietnam, ect. ect. Next to genocide, which your not going to do with your own population, the only option is failure.
Of course I was speaking purely hypothetical, and I agree with Roger... I can't see this happening in this generation even with all the weirdness and hatred going on.
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

Don Coyote

Quote from: Nawaxo on August 10, 2010, 10:25:36 PM

I actually think that people in the U.S. just like to shoot each other and feel powerful handling big, hevy and hard guns ready to OH FREUD WHERE ARE YOU?

Have you even picked up a rifle?