Prop 8 Watch. Grab your popcorn, kids!

[LMNO]

and your hands if you do thisOr if you're going to boycott anyway, perhaps you can throw extra power into a third party.

Cf: Harvey Milk.  Got pissed at the gay political mainstream, decided to run for office.  Took him several years, but eventually he won.


Of course, look what happened to him, however.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Cain's got a good point.
Another interesting thing you could do is try to get Steve Gunderson to run for President. Not only is he a Republican, but he's gay himself. He won't win, most likely, but if he seems a strong enough candidate, or that his running will definitely lose the Dems their gay vote, possibly for a very long time, to the Republicans, it will light a firecracker in their ass.


Or if you're going to boycott anyway, perhaps you can throw extra power into a third party.

And by you, I mean us. I already vote third party, but perhaps we can start up an gayGASM, to get a gay Republican to run for president. I'm starting to like the idea more and more, as I'm sitting here.

and your hands if you do thisOr if you're going to boycott anyway, perhaps you can throw extra power into a third party.

Cf: Harvey Milk.  Got pissed at the gay political mainstream, decided to run for office.  Took him several years, but eventually he won.


Of course, look what happened to him, however.

Yeah, that sucked, but at least he won. I would have voted for him.

[LMNO]

A gay Republican is still a Republican.

"He might have tanked the economy with supply side economics and tax cuts, and he might have gotten us into three more useless wars, but at least he sucks cock!"

[Adios]

A gay Republican is still a Republican.

"He might have tanked the economy with supply side economics and tax cuts, and he might have gotten us into three more useless wars, but at least he sucks cock!"

This.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

A gay Republican is still a Republican.

"He might have tanked the economy with supply side economics and tax cuts, and he might have gotten us into three more useless wars, but at least he sucks cock!"

The purpose is not to have the Republican candidate win, but rather to make LGBT rights a larger priority. If it seems to the Dems that the GOP is actively trying to steal the gay vote, they may be more likely to do something. If you like to even it out, we could try and convince gay politicians from other parties to run for president in 2012 also.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

A gay Republican is still a Republican.

"He might have tanked the economy with supply side economics and tax cuts, and he might have gotten us into three more useless wars, but at least he sucks cock!"

This.

The Christian Right would never allow him to win the Presidency. And like I said, it would have a fracturing effect on them to have the Log Cabins on steroids.

[LMNO]

I think I see what you're saying here... It's a gambit: Make it look like LGBT is jumping the Dem ship by supporting a gay Rep, so that the Dems actually do something?

You'd have to convince a lot of people to play along.

[Adios]

I think I see what you're saying here... It's a gambit: Make it look like LGBT is jumping the Dem ship by supporting a gay Rep, so that the Dems actually do something?

You'd have to convince a lot of people to play along.

I think this could cause a lot more harm than good. It could even possibly split the LGBT community.

[DiscoUkulele]

Not donating money is a simple enough step that I think a lot of people could get involved in.

John Aravosis (a big voice in the LGBT blogosphere) started a campaign called Don't Ask, Don't Give. He wants people to sign a petition saying they won't donate any money to the Democratic Party until the Employment Nondiscrimination Act is signed and DOMA and DADT are repealed. He's got some other major people involved in it, as well.

I don't think I could vote for a Republican. The Republican party in Texas wants to recriminalize gay sex and pass immigration laws similar to Arizona's. And they fucked up our textbooks. 

[Cain]

It is perfect politics, though.  Always always ALWAYS attempt to play off the most powerful parties against each other for your personal benefit.  That puts you in the position of influence, since then they are attempting to court your support, you're not giving it away for nothing.

Rule #2 of politics: make everyone pay for your support/TINSTAAFL

[Kai]

While I know the truth of what Cain and others say in this thread,

I also can't help but be happy and excited at this decision.


Sorry, guys, no rationality from me on this one. Just something about queers winning gets me going.

I think I see what you're saying here... It's a gambit: Make it look like LGBT is jumping the Dem ship by supporting a gay Rep, so that the Dems actually do something?

You'd have to convince a lot of people to play along.

I think this could cause a lot more harm than good. It could even possibly split the LGBT community.

It's already split, CB. There never was an "LGBT community", rather, the fags and lesbos hate on the bisexuals and queers, and everyone hates on the trannies. It's the southern white sharecropper's racism, taken to a different issue. Really fucking sad.

[LMNO]

As far as I've seen, the fags and the lezzies don't really get along very well, either.

[Adios]

As far as I've seen, the fags and the lezzies don't really get along very well, either.

This confuses me.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

It is perfect politics, though.  Always always ALWAYS attempt to play off the most powerful parties against each other for your personal benefit.  That puts you in the position of influence, since then they are attempting to court your support, you're not giving it away for nothing.

Rule #2 of politics: make everyone pay for your support/TINSTAAFL

This.

LMNO-
It would involve getting a lot of people to play along, and it may temporarily split the LGBT community, but what difference does that make if the Dems aren't doing anything anyway.

DU-
You wouldn't have to vote for him at all. He would likely lose in the primaries. If he doesn't I would be very surprised. It sends a dual message though, to the Dems- start doing what you say, and if he does decent in the primaries, to the GOP- you're getting too extreme.

[LMNO]

As far as I've seen, the fags and the lezzies don't really get along very well, either.

This confuses me.

I've never really understood it either.