I'm tripping on cough syrup, ask me anything.

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

ME TOO i love shows about cake 
they are going to do top chef DESSERTS 

[Thurnez Isa]

fap cakes?

[East Coast Hustle]

Unlike you FREAKS I drown my sorrow in an endless barrage of mind-numbing TV programing.
Nothing makes you forget about how your going to pat rent faster than The Cake Boss.

Television is exempt from my normal stance of "it's all good".

[BabylonHoruv]

My concern was more for the fact that you're married to someone and find you need emotional stimulation elsewhere. And if it's an "open" relationship, my assumption would be that this has been the situation for some time, now. Now if "open" meant you were swingers, that would slant my perception of things a bit differently. Regardless of my assumptions, therapy is usually not a bad thing.

Swingers usually get sexual, but not emotional stimulation outside the marriage.  That's not how we do it.  There are emotional needs that I have that my wife does not fulfil, doesn't want to fulfil, and cannot fulifl, and vice versa.  We've accepted that and it's not a problem.  And yes, it has been that way for a while, we get along much better now that things are open than we did before.  She's been the person I have been most able to rely on for support in dealing with the breakup too.

[East Coast Hustle]

I think it's weird that people are basically saying "OMG I can't believe you're doing something that works for you and the person you're in a relationship with!"

[BabylonHoruv]

I think it's weird that people are basically saying "OMG I can't believe you're doing something that works for you and the person you're in a relationship with!"

I think that depends on how you define weird.  It's the reaction I expect, so it's not weird to me.  Poly isn't normal in the US and I don't expect it ever to be normal. 

[AFK]

because methods of dealing with emotional issues are comparable to predictable physical effects of deceleration.

The point was you don't need to experience certain things first hand to be able to understand the impact.  There has been much research done on the effects of substances on the mind and body.  I don't need to actually abuse OTCs to figure out if it is healthy or not.  I will agree that a person may experience or perceive some level of short term benefit from getting high, drunk, etc., to combat an emotional episode.  But, research will tell you that in the long term it is a behavior that is prone to negative consequences. 

[Triple Zero]

research will tell you that in the long term it is a behavior that is prone to negative consequences. 

That's quite a long looooong way from "categorically false".

[East Coast Hustle]

because methods of dealing with emotional issues are comparable to predictable physical effects of deceleration.

The point was you don't need to experience certain things first hand to be able to understand the impact.  There has been much research done on the effects of substances on the mind and body.  I don't need to actually abuse OTCs to figure out if it is healthy or not.  I will agree that a person may experience or perceive some level of short term benefit from getting high, drunk, etc., to combat an emotional episode.  But, research will tell you that in the long term it is a behavior that is prone to negative consequences. 

I don't think anyone was advocating getting high on cough syrup on a regular basis.

My job is not just to keep the crewmembers fed, but to try to keep them as healthy as possible. I don't tell them not to go enjoy a steak dinner at Outback when we get to port after a long trip just because eating at Outback regularly would be unhealthy for them. Surely you're able to understand that sometimes grown-ass adults do things rarely or in moderation that are enjoyable and produce a positive emotional state even if doing the same thing regularly would be detrimental to long-term health.

In short, I don't think that kids should do drugs either, dude, but please stop treating us as though we're the troubled teens that need preventative measures.

[East Coast Hustle]

also, there's been a lot of research done on a whole lot of things, much of it linked to disingenuous or downright false conclusions. Not saying that applies to your professional purview, but I do think it's worth reminding that "TFYS" sometimes means not trusting what others have to say on a subject no matter how many voices there are. Sometimes you just gotta know firsthand to be able to form a valid opinion on something.

Do you have to abuse OTC meds to know they're bad for you? Definitely not. But do you have to get your heart broken and drown your sorrows in a bottle (of whiskey or robitussin or whatever) to really understand whether or not that helps you get past the emotional trauma? Yeah, I think you do. And I'm not saying it works for everyone, but I'm saying you shouldn't knock it til you try it.

[BabylonHoruv]

because methods of dealing with emotional issues are comparable to predictable physical effects of deceleration.

The point was you don't need to experience certain things first hand to be able to understand the impact.  There has been much research done on the effects of substances on the mind and body.  I don't need to actually abuse OTCs to figure out if it is healthy or not.  I will agree that a person may experience or perceive some level of short term benefit from getting high, drunk, etc., to combat an emotional episode.  But, research will tell you that in the long term it is a behavior that is prone to negative consequences. 

Yep, I agree.  Long term use of DXM is a VERY bad idea for me.  I've done that before, I don't intend to do it again.  Occasional short term use meanwhile (on the scale of once every few years) seems to work well for me.

[AFK]

because methods of dealing with emotional issues are comparable to predictable physical effects of deceleration.

The point was you don't need to experience certain things first hand to be able to understand the impact.  There has been much research done on the effects of substances on the mind and body.  I don't need to actually abuse OTCs to figure out if it is healthy or not.  I will agree that a person may experience or perceive some level of short term benefit from getting high, drunk, etc., to combat an emotional episode.  But, research will tell you that in the long term it is a behavior that is prone to negative consequences. 

I don't think anyone was advocating getting high on cough syrup on a regular basis.

My job is not just to keep the crewmembers fed, but to try to keep them as healthy as possible. I don't tell them not to go enjoy a steak dinner at Outback when we get to port after a long trip just because eating at Outback regularly would be unhealthy for them. Surely you're able to understand that sometimes grown-ass adults do things rarely or in moderation that are enjoyable and produce a positive emotional state even if doing the same thing regularly would be detrimental to long-term health.

In short, I don't think that kids should do drugs either, dude, but please stop treating us as though we're the troubled teens that need preventative measures.

Well fuck me for being a concerned PD.COM citizen.

With that, I'm off for a few days or more. 

[East Coast Hustle]

Dude, don't be butthurt. Just recognize that you've got some particular filters that occasionally cause you to come off sounding not quite preachy but certainly overbearing about a particular subject. It's not personal in the slightest. I think you're a stand-up dude who contributes alot to this board. You just don't need to sound like a drug counselor EVERY time the subject comes up. I honestly don't see why you'd take offense to my post, especially since I was very careful to make sure I didn't accidentally come off like I was chopping at your balls over it.

[LMNO]

ECH is being very even-handed, even though in my old age I'm leaning towards RWHN's view of life, if for no other reason than one of self-preservation (i.e. I can't keep up anymore).

[LMNO]

Maybe.

Eventually.