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an argument for a deflationary policy in the You Ess of Heeeeey

Started by Disco Pickle, September 06, 2010, 07:57:12 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

See, most guys, I'd assume they were arguing from butthurt at this point.

But I don't think that's what you're doing.  I think you really believe this garbage that the children deserve what they get.

You're a sad example of a primate.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Disco Pickle

#346
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 28, 2012, 12:43:43 AM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 12:40:59 AM

Hey, go fuck yourself.  Here's what I said, and you should probably get in the habit of actually quoting people before you lie about what they said.  It'll make you look even funnier.

QuoteYou know what, if you're too tired to teach your children how to do things better than you did?

FUCK YOU

Your family and your children will get everything that's coming to them.

And I still wholeheartedly believe that.

This is why you aren't actually a human being.  You're more of a thin smear of shit with an Iphone.

lol iphone.  i can't afford an iPhone.  im using a 4 year old samsung phone I bought second hand, driving a 21 year old vehicle, (which I love, btw.  91 wrangler, straight 6, you'd probably like it despite despising me) and i'm too busy saving money so that my child doesn't have to start at the bottom. 

and by your view, that's just too much to ask people to do.  and inhuman to boot.  they're so fragile, humans. 

[EDIT]edit for  math fail.  12 is 21 backwards. 

I have no excuse.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 01:00:54 AM


lol iphone.  i can't afford an iPhone.  im using a 4 year old samsung phone I bought second hand, driving a 12 year old vehicle, (which I love, btw.  91 wrangler, straight 6, you'd probably like it despite despising me)

I don't care.

Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 01:00:54 AMand i'm too busy saving money so that my child doesn't have to start at the bottom.

You're taking a few things for granted, here...


Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 01:00:54 AM
and by your view, that's just too much to ask people to do.  and inhuman to boot.  they're so fragile, humans.

How would you know?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Disco Pickle

#348
of course you don't care. it doesn't fit your narrative. 

i do take a few things for granted.  i do it often.  i likely don't do it any more than anyone else in this country, over any given timeframe.  i welcome being reminded of when i do.  it's grounding and reminds me from where i came when i loose sight of it. 


and i wouldn't know any more about what you truly believe based on a few short sentences than you would about mine, but i thought that was the name of the game we were playing. 

i know nothing substansive about your beliefs or thoughts, because i don't know you outside of the things you write here.  it was wrong of me to say otherwise.

[edit] sorry for the capitalization as well.  difficult to type on this thing.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 01:27:05 AM
of course you don't care. it doesn't fit your narrative. 



Look, it doesn't do much good to say shit like that.  It's like being insulted by the toaster.  I'm just not feeling it.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 12:40:59 AM
QuoteYou know what, if you're too tired to teach your children how to do things better than you did?

FUCK YOU

Your family and your children will get everything that's coming to them.

And I still wholeheartedly believe that.  It's one of the only things that's kept the species from getting eaten by predators, only now the only natural predator we have outside of camping in the wilderness is other humans.  Teaching your children about what NOT to do should your biggest contribution to their lives.

If a parent fails in their duties as a parent, the children deserve what's coming to them.

I'm trying to understand how this could make any sense without you looking like a monster. I'll try to paraphrase it another way:

If a parent neglects their children, the children deserve whatever happens to them.

Hmm...it still sounds sociopathic, morally repugnant, and just downright inhuman. I'll try again:

If a parent doesn't teach their children important lessons, the children deserve everything that happens to them as a result of the parent's failure.

Yeah, that's a horrendous sentiment, no matter how you slice it. Perhaps you could clarify some of the specific kinds of misfortune children deserve if their parents fail to teach their kids properly?
P E R   A S P E R A   A D   A S T R A

LMNO

Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 12:40:59 AM
How can we address institutionalized poverty that results from state assistance without invading personal privacy?  Is it possible?

Yeah.  This is... well, I guess the best way to say it is, "coming from an erroneous position."

In a capitalist society, poverty will always exist.  There will never be a 0% unemployment rate, and the way the system is structured will always ensure that there will be inequality. 

Various social systems have been put in place to try to alleviate this misery, and to ensure some kind of dignity that the free market doesn't have time for.  What's interesting is that some people have put the cart before the horse, and instead of seeing state assistance as a corrective to the system's amorality, they see it as it's cause.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 28, 2012, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 12:40:59 AM
How can we address institutionalized poverty that results from state assistance without invading personal privacy?  Is it possible?

Yeah.  This is... well, I guess the best way to say it is, "coming from an erroneous position."

In a capitalist society, poverty will always exist.  There will never be a 0% unemployment rate, and the way the system is structured will always ensure that there will be inequality. 

Various social systems have been put in place to try to alleviate this misery, and to ensure some kind of dignity that the free market doesn't have time for.  What's interesting is that some people have put the cart before the horse, and instead of seeing state assistance as a corrective to the system's amorality, they see it as it's cause.

Post of the year.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Net on August 28, 2012, 02:05:10 AM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 12:40:59 AM
QuoteYou know what, if you're too tired to teach your children how to do things better than you did?

FUCK YOU

Your family and your children will get everything that's coming to them.

And I still wholeheartedly believe that.  It's one of the only things that's kept the species from getting eaten by predators, only now the only natural predator we have outside of camping in the wilderness is other humans.  Teaching your children about what NOT to do should your biggest contribution to their lives.

If a parent fails in their duties as a parent, the children deserve what's coming to them.

I'm trying to understand how this could make any sense without you looking like a monster. I'll try to paraphrase it another way:

If a parent neglects their children, the children deserve whatever happens to them.

Hmm...it still sounds sociopathic, morally repugnant, and just downright inhuman. I'll try again:

If a parent doesn't teach their children important lessons, the children deserve everything that happens to them as a result of the parent's failure.

Yeah, that's a horrendous sentiment, no matter how you slice it. Perhaps you could clarify some of the specific kinds of misfortune children deserve if their parents fail to teach their kids properly?

Yep, there's pretty much nothing redeemable there.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 28, 2012, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 12:40:59 AM
How can we address institutionalized poverty that results from state assistance without invading personal privacy?  Is it possible?

Yeah.  This is... well, I guess the best way to say it is, "coming from an erroneous position."

In a capitalist society, poverty will always exist.  There will never be a 0% unemployment rate, and the way the system is structured will always ensure that there will be inequality. 

Various social systems have been put in place to try to alleviate this misery, and to ensure some kind of dignity that the free market doesn't have time for.  What's interesting is that some people have put the cart before the horse, and instead of seeing state assistance as a corrective to the system's amorality, they see it as it's cause.

Yep.

It's probably easier and more comforting than recognizing the failures of a capitalist economy.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Roly Poly Oly-Garch

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 28, 2012, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 12:40:59 AM
How can we address institutionalized poverty that results from state assistance without invading personal privacy?  Is it possible?

Yeah.  This is... well, I guess the best way to say it is, "coming from an erroneous position."

In a capitalist society, poverty will always exist.  There will never be a 0% unemployment rate, and the way the system is structured will always ensure that there will be inequality. 

Various social systems have been put in place to try to alleviate this misery, and to ensure some kind of dignity that the free market doesn't have time for.  What's interesting is that some people have put the cart before the horse, and instead of seeing state assistance as a corrective to the system's amorality, they see it as it's cause.

Fucking Brilliant!
Back to the fecal matter in the pool

LMNO

Every so often, the neurons and synapses combine.

However, I will admit that economics is not my forte, and the above is most likely highly generalized.

Faust

If children are to be born into the ultracapitalist environment at a distinct disadvantage to others then I implore you not to go half way.

These children should be entitled to the american dream and the only way to do so is without any socialist interference such as laws or regulation.

Disadvantaged children should be entitled to rite of conquest. If the universe gets to fuck you at the start then its your right to kill whomever you wish to rise to the top.

Sleepless nights at the chateau

LMNO


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."