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an argument for a deflationary policy in the You Ess of Heeeeey

Started by Disco Pickle, September 06, 2010, 07:57:12 PM

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Phox

Quote from: Charley Brown on September 07, 2010, 12:37:37 AM
To a point. If my ass depended on the nut next to me (see swamp stories) then I don't want that fucker all fucked up. There has to be some limits. Overall, I agree with pot being legalized, but I also believe that companies should have the right to say "not at work"

I agree with you there. I also believe that certain harder drugs should be legalized to A) take lot of power away from drug-dealers, B) regulate the hell out of it so there are fewer OD's, C)generate more revenue from vice taxes.This will also reduce the number of federal prisoners by a large margin, reducing costs in that area.

I do feel that employers should have the right to say "only on your own time", because of situations like you described.


That is also my list for why I feel prostitution should be legal as well, except replace a certain O with ST.

Adios

Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 07, 2010, 12:46:28 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 07, 2010, 12:37:37 AM
To a point. If my ass depended on the nut next to me (see swamp stories) then I don't want that fucker all fucked up. There has to be some limits. Overall, I agree with pot being legalized, but I also believe that companies should have the right to say "not at work"

I agree with you there. I also believe that certain harder drugs should be legalized to A) take lot of power away from drug-dealers, B) regulate the hell out of it so there are fewer OD's, C)generate more revenue from vice taxes.This will also reduce the number of federal prisoners by a large margin, reducing costs in that area.

I do feel that employers should have the right to say "only on your own time", because of situations like you described.


That is also my list for why I feel prostitution should be legal as well, except replace a certain O with ST.

Except for known STD and HIV carriers still working, prostitution is meh.

Phox

My philosophy has always been hat it makes no sense for it to be illegal, since it can be made safer and grant an economic boost with proper government involvement. Plus, it helps take away the power of violent criminals.

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 07, 2010, 12:22:38 AM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 07, 2010, 12:17:25 AM
For the record, I am in complete support of mandatory drug-testing for anyone receiving state or federal aid of any sort. I am also in favor of social safety nets and increasing services to people who want to elevate their own socioeconomic status. I am also going out to the bar, so I won't be here for anyone to shit on, though I imagine that somehow my tenure here would render me immune from that even though I don't think I've said anything essentially different on the subject than the new guy did.

I'm pretty sure that isn't the part we're disagreeing with him on.

and I'm pretty sure that he posted an idea, explained that it was half-formed and that he was looking for constructive feedback/criticism and for people to pick apart the flaws in his idea logically and that what he got was a bunch of "MONKEYS LOL!" and willful misinterpretation in the search for offense where none was intended.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Adios

Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 07, 2010, 03:06:54 AM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 07, 2010, 12:22:38 AM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 07, 2010, 12:17:25 AM
For the record, I am in complete support of mandatory drug-testing for anyone receiving state or federal aid of any sort. I am also in favor of social safety nets and increasing services to people who want to elevate their own socioeconomic status. I am also going out to the bar, so I won't be here for anyone to shit on, though I imagine that somehow my tenure here would render me immune from that even though I don't think I've said anything essentially different on the subject than the new guy did.

I'm pretty sure that isn't the part we're disagreeing with him on.

and I'm pretty sure that he posted an idea, explained that it was half-formed and that he was looking for constructive feedback/criticism and for people to pick apart the flaws in his idea logically and that what he got was a bunch of "MONKEYS LOL!" and willful misinterpretation in the search for offense where none was intended.

Hey, I carried on a non insulting conversation. I called BS when I thought it was correct to do so.

East Coast Hustle

yeah, wasn't really directed at you. I thought you made the most sense of anyone ITT so far. And upon further review, I agree with your assessment of the flaws with drug-testing for state aid.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Disco Pickle

Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 06, 2010, 08:47:26 PM
Any system will do, since I was making a facetious suggestion that compared to yours. But why not good ol' fashioned Communism, since you asked?

alright, I'm comming back to this after a day or so..

can you point out even one country functioning under this system today?

I would love to read about a functioning communist system.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Phox

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 08, 2010, 03:28:38 AM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 06, 2010, 08:47:26 PM
Any system will do, since I was making a facetious suggestion that compared to yours. But why not good ol' fashioned Communism, since you asked?

alright, I'm comming back to this after a day or so..

can you point out even one country functioning under this system today?

I would love to read about a functioning communist system.


Well, there isn't one. But then, there isn't one under your proposed system either, so should that matter?

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 07, 2010, 12:05:36 AM

As I understand it, you can use the court system, at no cost to you, to get child support from the guy.


You're a fucking idiot.

Just saying.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 06, 2010, 11:24:52 PM

your situation exists, and hindsight is always 20/20, so I'm guessing you would have made more prudent decisions, even though at the time, he seemed like a good enough guy.  maybe.  everyone has made less than thoughtful decisions regarding the people we let in our lives emotionally and sexually.  Not knowing you, but knowing intimately, many people in your situation, my position has always been that they should have given their relationship much more time before children came along.  


RIGHT.  SO DROP THE LITTLE TYKE IN AN ACID VAT AND START OVER.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on September 06, 2010, 11:34:04 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 06, 2010, 11:24:52 PM

I know, this discounts an entire range of human enteraction and emotion, promises and hopes..


and this in 1/2 a sentence is why libertarian philosophy and economics will never ever work

THIS.
Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 08, 2010, 03:29:46 AM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 08, 2010, 03:28:38 AM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 06, 2010, 08:47:26 PM
Any system will do, since I was making a facetious suggestion that compared to yours. But why not good ol' fashioned Communism, since you asked?

alright, I'm comming back to this after a day or so..

can you point out even one country functioning under this system today?

I would love to read about a functioning communist system.


Well, there isn't one. But then, there isn't one under your proposed system either, so should that matter?


my proposed system exists, it's simply inflationary rather than deflationary.

central banks have a stated goal to for "price stability" and yeah, that's been working great.

"encourage high employment"  they're doing a stand up job.

You'll never hear me advocating for a central bank, but if we have to live with one, I'd advocate for policies that don't fuck the poor while bankrolling the rich.

what sort of banking system exists in your "good ol fashioned communism"??

"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Freeky

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 08, 2010, 03:31:58 AM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 07, 2010, 12:05:36 AM

As I understand it, you can use the court system, at no cost to you, to get child support from the guy.


You're a fucking idiot.

Just saying.

I :lulz: when I read that. I'll be paying my shit off for another 4 years.

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 08, 2010, 03:31:58 AM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 07, 2010, 12:05:36 AM

As I understand it, you can use the court system, at no cost to you, to get child support from the guy.


You're a fucking idiot.

Just saying.

so what ARE the costs?

I know at least one person who is taking advantage of the social court system in order to fight against denying him visitation, even though he pays child support.

this is not something for which he pays out of pocket. 

He is filing papers and being supplied with an attorney.

Maybe I'm missing what you're saying, if you're saying anything at all.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Phox

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 08, 2010, 03:35:34 AM
my proposed system exists, it's simply inflationary rather than deflationary.
My Proposed system exists too, it just works in the opposite way it's supposed to. Just like yours, as you have just stated.

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 08, 2010, 03:35:34 AM
central banks have a stated goal to for "price stability" and yeah, that's been working great.

"encourage high employment"  they're doing a stand up job.

You'll never hear me advocating for a central bank, but if we have to live with one, I'd advocate for policies that don't fuck the poor while bankrolling the rich.
Okay. I'm not sure what your point is with that.

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 08, 2010, 03:35:34 AM
what sort of banking system exists in your "good ol fashioned communism"??



well, in true communism, there wouldn't need to be a banking system, because there wouldn't be currency. So, none whatsoever.