Is the universe a holographic reality?

[Timothy Tebulot Tower]

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2foD9n/www.globalone.tv/group/quantumquest/forum/topics/is-the-universe-a-holographic/r:f

[AFK]

Is hollow graphic, for sure. 

[eighteen buddha strike]

Well, before I start reading this, ... isn't this basically the premise behind The Invisibles? ... and pretty much every PKD story?

[Doktor Howl]

I think we've covered this before.

In fact, I think Samuel Johnson put this shit to rest 250 years ago.

[Doktor Howl]

Also, I'm reasonably certain the OP is Tentasticle, back for another round.

[Cain]

I stubbed my toe and it hurt, so I'm going for "no".

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

There was an interesting theory on the noise fluctuations in the GEO600 sensor data which correlated to a prediction based on the Holographic Universe model. However, the jury is still out on the causation... The model predicted the noise almost exactly, but some newer data brought up questions about the sensitivity of the sensor array.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327247.000-13-more-things-noise-from-the-edge-of-the-universe.html

The sensor upgrades should be done soon and we'll see if they still pick up the anomalies or if the noise is tuned out.

[Doktor Howl]

A prediction?

[NWC]

I saw an interesting documentary about this called the Matrix, you guys should check it out

[Doktor Howl]

If the universe WAS a holographic reality, then the programmers should be beaten up and down the street, infected with syphilis, and dropped down a manhole.

But it isn't.  This is just another pseudo-religion for people who are afraid of being alive, same as the retards who think that consciousness is just a collection of interacting memes.

[Kai]

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest we live in a holographic "phantom" reality, there is nothing implicit or explicit about it in quantum mechanics or physics of any kind, and if we did live in a holographic reality that was somehow "not real" (does this sound to anyone a bit like philosophical zombies?) everything would work as it does already.

Unlike many worlds, which is implicit in dehohesion does not violate other physical laws and explains the weirdness of quantum disentanglement without the stupidity of schrodinger's cat (like collapse postulate does), phantom reality doesn't have anything to it, it is completely meaningless.  It is equally as /weird/ as many worlds to the average person, but it is otherwise stupid and useless.

[Doktor Howl]

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest we live in a holographic "phantom" reality, there is nothing implicit or explicit about it in quantum mechanics or physics of any kind, and if we did live in a holographic reality that was somehow "not real" (does this sound to anyone a bit like philosophical zombies?) everything would work as it does already.

Unlike many worlds, which is implicit in dehohesion does not violate other physical laws and explains the weirdness of quantum disentanglement without the stupidity of schrodinger's cat (like collapse postulate does), phantom reality doesn't have anything to it, it is completely meaningless.  It is equally as /weird/ as many worlds to the average person, but it is otherwise stupid and useless.

BUT...BUT...TEH QUANTUMS!

[Kai]

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest we live in a holographic "phantom" reality, there is nothing implicit or explicit about it in quantum mechanics or physics of any kind, and if we did live in a holographic reality that was somehow "not real" (does this sound to anyone a bit like philosophical zombies?) everything would work as it does already.

Unlike many worlds, which is implicit in dehohesion does not violate other physical laws and explains the weirdness of quantum disentanglement without the stupidity of schrodinger's cat (like collapse postulate does), phantom reality doesn't have anything to it, it is completely meaningless.  It is equally as /weird/ as many worlds to the average person, but it is otherwise stupid and useless.

BUT...BUT...TEH QUANTUMS!

Yeah. The quantums.

Remind me to kill whoever was responsible for that film "What the *bleep* do we know?" That piece of shit is responsible for so much of this QUANTUMS madness. That, and that the collapse postulate (now defunct) was proposed before decohesion, leading to people believing that MINDZ CAN EFFECT QUANTUMS and ENERGIEZ FASTER THAN TEH SPEEDZ OF LIGHT. But the latter is more forgivable.

[LMNO]

I blame Bohr, actually.  He was one of the first ones to use clumsy and inaccurate metaphors to describe QM.

[Richter]

OP: Reality is still real enough that the barstool applies, no matter what we may theorize it is.  Neat as philosophical inquiry, but doesn't change the fact that I am here, and here seems solid and consistend enough to interact with.

When the barstool can be un-realed, so to speak, THEN you've got my attention.