REEFER MADNESS!!!!!!

[BabylonHoruv]

My personal thing against pot and other drugs probably can be best understood through the lens of the Shrapnel and Paths discussions.  I think especially for young people, drugs can end up being a limiting agent and as kids get more and more wrapped up into the behavior, paths become obscured and are no longer in sight.  It doesn't become the one-true path perhaps, but it's one of the few that matters to the young person.  Ultimately, this path becomes self-destructive depending on how far along the kid goes.  And the horizon has become so limited in options that it is all that can be done to make treatment appear to be a new path, and one that offers promise and personal rewards. 

So I guess in the end it's still a morality issue, but I like to think that it isn't a religious self-serving morality.  I just want kids to not become limited in their childhood and to still have all the options and paths opened to them.   

First, you and I are in agreement about kids smoking pot = bad idea.

However, I wonder if the 'obscuring of paths' that you mention is because of pot, or because of"pot as act of rebelliousness" or "pot as escapism" or even because there's no way to introduce young adults to pot in a responsible manner. Speaking as a person who uses pot, it can sometimes feel limiting simply because its an illegal act and you never know if a new person might be offended/upset etc. if they see a pipe somewhere in your house. Since I'm an adult, I can take responsibility for that and just make sure my stuff is put away etc. but if I were younger, less responsible, more paranoid, well, maybe it would feel limiting/obscuring/constraining.

My parents gave me my first drink when I was maybe 5 or 6. I had really bad chest cold or bronchitis or something and they mixed a shot of whiskey, honey and lemon, heated it and made me drink it. As I got older, Dad would let me have a taste of beer or a taste of wine or whatever they were having. Drinking alcohol was never demonized... it was just not allowed at my age. When I was in my late teens, I was allowed a beer occasionally. I wonder if pot would be such a consuming aspect to kids perceptions if it wasn't alienating by virtue of society. Shante's first experience with marijuana was as an adult, after she got stood up for a New Years party. Her Dad shared a joint with her for the evening and they had a great time bonding. Granted, he's a crazy hippie... but she remembers that as a positive experience.

After I grew up and finally tried pot (recreational) I stumbled upon the fact that its a godsend for recurring migraines that I've gotten ever since I was a kid. My parents had given me every drug the Doctors would perscribe, some of which left me feeling like my head was a hot air balloon... most of which didn't help or had nasty side effects. Would my expereince with Pot have been different if it had been like that first shot of whiskey?

I dunno.

Pot was socially accepted for me as a teen.  My father would not tolerate me using it in his house, because of possible legal repercusssions to him, but he did not mind if I used it occasionally at parties.  Alcohol meanwhile he would absolutely not tolerate the usage of under 21.

I've never abused either of those drugs (at least I don't think I have, I don't have any negative consequences in my life that I can attribute to either) on the other hand I have abused the hell out of DXM cough syrup (not the recent time, that was a once in several years occurance that I think was a positive thing) and I have also abused LSD (not as severely, but it certainly led to some negative consequences that could have been foreseen and avoided)

My main problems with pot being illegal are the funneling of money to organized crime and the gateway drug effect.  Because if you know someone who sells pot chances are you know someone who sells something else it often serves as the gateway to harder drugs.

[Telarus]

Pot Smoking Radicals Are Using the Internet to Turn America Into a Socialist Sex Utopia !!!!11!11one!one!111

[Freeky]

Pot Smoking Radicals Are Using the Internet to Turn America Into a Socialist Sex Utopia !!!!11!11one!one!111

If they're trying to make it sound bad, why didn't they use DYStopia?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Please tell me that's a parody site.

[Triple Zero]

According to this NIDA report, one bowl of cannabis on average has a nutritional value equivalent to nearly 3 brussel sprouts:

http://www.nida.nih.gov/ResearchReports/Marijuana/Vitamins-minerals-health-benefits2009.html

I mean, it's not much, and people should of course always take care to have a varied diet. But at least it shows that cannabis isn't all bad.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

According to this NIDA report, one bowl of cannabis on average has a nutritional value equivalent to nearly 3 brussel sprouts:

http://www.nida.nih.gov/ResearchReports/Marijuana/Vitamins-minerals-health-benefits2009.html

I mean, it's not much, and people should of course always take care to have a varied diet. But at least it shows that cannabis isn't all bad.

Naturally a Dutchman would look to find the nutritional value of weed in comparison to Belgian food.

[Triple Zero]

It's from American research, just sayin'.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

It's from American research, just sayin'.

Damn.
The NIH website should have tipped me off on that.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

According to this NIDA report, one bowl of cannabis on average has a nutritional value equivalent to nearly 3 brussel sprouts:

http://www.nida.nih.gov/ResearchReports/Marijuana/Vitamins-minerals-health-benefits2009.html

I mean, it's not much, and people should of course always take care to have a varied diet. But at least it shows that cannabis isn't all bad.

Mmmm, with a cheese sauce!!!

[Cramulus]

According to this NIDA report, one bowl of cannabis on average has a nutritional value equivalent to nearly 3 brussel sprouts:

http://www.nida.nih.gov/ResearchReports/Marijuana/Vitamins-minerals-health-benefits2009.html

I mean, it's not much, and people should of course always take care to have a varied diet. But at least it shows that cannabis isn't all bad.

link totally got me

there needs to be an emote combining  with this guy's fist 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

According to this NIDA report, one bowl of cannabis on average has a nutritional value equivalent to nearly 3 brussel sprouts:

http://www.nida.nih.gov/ResearchReports/Marijuana/Vitamins-minerals-health-benefits2009.html

I mean, it's not much, and people should of course always take care to have a varied diet. But at least it shows that cannabis isn't all bad.

link totally got me

there needs to be an emote combining  with this guy's fist 

Or just the fist on its own, so we can attach it to anything. Like the fap mote.

[East Coast Hustle]

According to this NIDA report, one bowl of cannabis on average has a nutritional value equivalent to nearly 3 brussel sprouts:

http://www.nida.nih.gov/ResearchReports/Marijuana/Vitamins-minerals-health-benefits2009.html

I mean, it's not much, and people should of course always take care to have a varied diet. But at least it shows that cannabis isn't all bad.

link totally got me

there needs to be an emote combining  with this guy's fist 

Or just the fist on its own, so we can attach it to anything. Like the fap mote.

or the goatse rabbit.

[Telarus]

http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2010/oct/30/marijuana_legalization_contingen

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Galifianakis lights up a joint on late-night TV
Oct. 30, 2010, 12:18 PM EST

WENN

Funnyman Zach Galifianakis stunned TV viewers on Friday night when he lit up a joint and started smoking it during a political chat show.

"The Hangover" star was making a point about the upcoming vote for marijuana legalization on "Real Time With Bill Maher" when he took the roll-up and a lighter out of his blazer pocket.

He said, "It's a tricky thing politically to jump on that bandwagon (and vote for the legalization of pot) because I think that maybe people still see it as taboo."

Galifianakis then started puffing away and offered the joint to fellow guest Margaret Hoover, a conservative news reporter, who smelled the cigarette and verified it was the real thing.

The actor continued smoking as the political debate on the show continued, and then raised a laugh by screaming, "Oh my God, look at those dragons!," poking fun at the stereotype of stoners.

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LOOK AT THE DRAGONS!!!!!! 

[East Coast Hustle]

too bad Galifianakis is a major douchebag.

And so is Bill Maher.

Otherwise, good show.

[Placid Dingo]

Please tell me that's a parody site.

Yes.