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Doktor Howl

Quote from: trix on June 24, 2011, 07:30:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 07:14:01 PM
I'm gonna argue in favor of weed, on account of keeping useless stupid people on the couch where they belong.



Hah, you're just jealous because I have hair.

HAIR JUST GETS IN THE WAY OF MY TESTOSTERONE PROJECTION.

TODAY, I COULD SMELL THE H2D BITCHES PHEROMONES BEGGING ME TO HIT THE TRAMPOLINE TO DISPLAY MY DOMINANCE.
Molon Lube

AFK

Quote from: trix on June 24, 2011, 07:20:05 PM
That said, however, I still strongly believe that as a reasonably intelligent and responsible adult, I should have the freedom to unwind in any manner I deem appropriate, and if the concern is the use by minors, that should be addressed on it's own.  Of course, as with most things relating to minors, the biggest issue is the parents.

Parents play a pivotal role for sure, but there are other factors at play as well.  Good parents who are attentive and involved in their child's development can still have kids who get involved with substances.  There are factors in the community, there is peer pressure at school, there are mental health factors, there are societal norms at play, etc.  It isn't as simple as all of the problems associated with youth substance abuse being linked to bad parenting.  

QuoteSo while you make good points, and I agree with many of them, in the end, as Khara says, we'll have to agree to disagree.  I don't have children, and telling me my freedom to do what I please should be restricted because other people can't parent their children properly, is something I simply cannot agree with.

If that was an accurate summary of the youth substance abuse issue I would agree.  But it isn't as I described above.  Like it or not, youth are part of every community for obvious reasons.  A thriving community needs a youth that thrives.  As such, I believe it is in the best interest of communities to make those choices regarding policy that creates the best possible environment in which youth can thrive.  That does necessitate some limits on the freedoms of adults.  I don't see any way around that.  
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

trix

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 07:35:41 PM
Quote from: trix on June 24, 2011, 07:30:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 07:14:01 PM
I'm gonna argue in favor of weed, on account of keeping useless stupid people on the couch where they belong.



Hah, you're just jealous because I have hair.

HAIR JUST GETS IN THE WAY OF MY TESTOSTERONE PROJECTION.

TODAY, I COULD SMELL THE H2D BITCHES PHEROMONES BEGGING ME TO HIT THE TRAMPOLINE TO DISPLAY MY DOMINANCE.


But but, all the H2D bitches LOVE stroking my hair!  Which is why I'm trying to grow it down to my cock.

Wait, YOU HAVE A TRAMPOLINE!?  No WONDER you gets all the bitches!
There's good news tonight.  And bad news.  First, the bad news: there is no good news.  Now, the good news: you don't have to listen to the bad news.
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Gender is a social construct.  As society, we get to choose your gender.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: trix on June 24, 2011, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 07:35:41 PM
Quote from: trix on June 24, 2011, 07:30:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 07:14:01 PM
I'm gonna argue in favor of weed, on account of keeping useless stupid people on the couch where they belong.



Hah, you're just jealous because I have hair.

HAIR JUST GETS IN THE WAY OF MY TESTOSTERONE PROJECTION.

TODAY, I COULD SMELL THE H2D BITCHES PHEROMONES BEGGING ME TO HIT THE TRAMPOLINE TO DISPLAY MY DOMINANCE.


But but, all the H2D bitches LOVE stroking my hair!  Which is why I'm trying to grow it down to my cock.

Wait, YOU HAVE A TRAMPOLINE!?  No WONDER you gets all the bitches!

THERE ISNT MUCH YOU CAN DO IF I WANT TO RUN THE BASES AT YOUR SOFTBALL GAME

YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A GAME?  DEAL.

I'M FASTER THAN GREASED LIGHTING, TUBBY.

HELMET? WHAT DO YOU THINK THESE MICKEY MOUSE EARS ARE, SON?

JUST MEET ME AT HOME PLATE IN ABOUT ONE MINUTE.

BRING A BAGGY FOR YOUR TEETH, THERE WILL BE A PLAY AT HOME PLATE.

DOK,
TAKES THIS SHIT SERIOUSLY

Molon Lube

trix

Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 24, 2011, 07:39:10 PM
Quote from: trix on June 24, 2011, 07:20:05 PM
That said, however, I still strongly believe that as a reasonably intelligent and responsible adult, I should have the freedom to unwind in any manner I deem appropriate, and if the concern is the use by minors, that should be addressed on it's own.  Of course, as with most things relating to minors, the biggest issue is the parents.

Parents play a pivotal role for sure, but there are other factors at play as well.  Good parents who are attentive and involved in their child's development can still have kids who get involved with substances.  There are factors in the community, there is peer pressure at school, there are mental health factors, there are societal norms at play, etc.  It isn't as simple as all of the problems associated with youth substance abuse being linked to bad parenting.  

QuoteSo while you make good points, and I agree with many of them, in the end, as Khara says, we'll have to agree to disagree.  I don't have children, and telling me my freedom to do what I please should be restricted because other people can't parent their children properly, is something I simply cannot agree with.

If that was an accurate summary of the youth substance abuse issue I would agree.  But it isn't as I described above.  Like it or not, youth are part of every community for obvious reasons.  A thriving community needs a youth that thrives.  As such, I believe it is in the best interest of communities to make those choices regarding policy that creates the best possible environment in which youth can thrive.  That does necessitate some limits on the freedoms of adults.  I don't see any way around that.  

We could always imprison all kids in cells until they hit 18!

But yeah, you do make some good points.  However I still believe properly raising and educating children would mitigate the issue far more effectively than simply banning anything that might harm them.  I'm not okay with my freedoms being restricted period, children or no.

In fact, I'd love to go live in a community where children themselves are banned!  But I suppose the community would die off after one generation.  Ah well.
There's good news tonight.  And bad news.  First, the bad news: there is no good news.  Now, the good news: you don't have to listen to the bad news.
Zen Without Zen Masters

Quote from: Cain
Gender is a social construct.  As society, we get to choose your gender.

AFK

So do you think speed limits should be eliminated? 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 24, 2011, 07:55:40 PM
So do you think speed limits should be eliminated? 

Yes.

And cars should be armed with .50 machine guns.

But only I should have bullets.
Molon Lube

AFK

Can't I at least get a grenade launcher? 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 24, 2011, 08:01:16 PM
Can't I at least get a grenade launcher? 

Sorry, I wouldn't trust the American public with anything more dangerous than silly string.

And I'd keep that away from Maine.
Molon Lube

trix

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 07:56:32 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 24, 2011, 07:55:40 PM
So do you think speed limits should be eliminated? 

Yes.

And cars should be armed with .50 machine guns.

But only I should have bullets.

Bwahahahaha!

I see the point of your analogy, of course, and yes there are many situations where certain laws are needed for safety reasons, but if it is
more or less safe for ME to smoke a bowl after work, fuck anyone that tells me I can't.

I think we should bring back woodchips on playgrounds, and replace all the new rounded cornered soft plastic bullshit slides and equipment, and bring back the hard metal rusty hot-as-fuck-in-the-daytime stuff.  Kids these days are turning into huge pussies.
There's good news tonight.  And bad news.  First, the bad news: there is no good news.  Now, the good news: you don't have to listen to the bad news.
Zen Without Zen Masters

Quote from: Cain
Gender is a social construct.  As society, we get to choose your gender.

trix

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 24, 2011, 08:01:16 PM
Can't I at least get a grenade launcher? 

Sorry, I wouldn't trust the American public with anything more dangerous than silly string.

And I'd keep that away from Maine.

There's good news tonight.  And bad news.  First, the bad news: there is no good news.  Now, the good news: you don't have to listen to the bad news.
Zen Without Zen Masters

Quote from: Cain
Gender is a social construct.  As society, we get to choose your gender.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: trix on June 24, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 24, 2011, 08:01:16 PM
Can't I at least get a grenade launcher? 

Sorry, I wouldn't trust the American public with anything more dangerous than silly string.

And I'd keep that away from Maine.



LAND OF TEH FREE!
Molon Lube

BabylonHoruv

Quote from: trix on June 24, 2011, 08:06:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 07:56:32 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 24, 2011, 07:55:40 PM
So do you think speed limits should be eliminated? 

Yes.

And cars should be armed with .50 machine guns.

But only I should have bullets.

Bwahahahaha!

I see the point of your analogy, of course, and yes there are many situations where certain laws are needed for safety reasons, but if it is
more or less safe for ME to smoke a bowl after work, fuck anyone that tells me I can't.

I think we should bring back woodchips on playgrounds, and replace all the new rounded cornered soft plastic bullshit slides and equipment, and bring back the hard metal rusty hot-as-fuck-in-the-daytime stuff.  Kids these days are turning into huge pussies.

They still have woodchips here.  Of course this town is in the middle ages in a lot of other respects, so I suppose it isn't surprising that nobody else uses them.
You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

Merely by being alive, you make everyone just a little more miserable

-Dok Howl

Doktor Howl

Wait.  Wood chips are now unsafe?

When I was a kid, we had steel monkeybars over CONCRETE.

There was a penalty for lack of strength and agility.
Molon Lube

Dysfunctional Cunt

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
Wait.  Wood chips are now unsafe?

When I was a kid, we had steel monkeybars over CONCRETE.

There was a penalty for lack of strength and agility.

Yes, wood chips became dangerous about the same time they banned dodge ball and red rover from most school systems across the country.