Hipsters fucking love the hurdy-gurdy

[Suu]

I'm pretty sure I'm a hipster.

-thick frame glasses.

-each ear has two earrings.

-MOUSTACHE.

-plays in indie rock band.

-pretentious music fuck.

-spent majority of trust fund getting drunk.

No, all the hipsters just wanna be liek YUO.

[LMNO]

Well, that's a relief.

[Cramulus]

I live in Westchester New York, a 10 minute subway ride from the Big City. Around here, moustaches, PBR, tweed jackets, and indie music are the local fashion right now. None of my friends have ever described themselves as "hipsters", around here that word tends is used specifically for people living in Williamsburg.

I remember when they were called "scenesters"- in my memory that did seem like a more specific and well defined group of people. In college I knew people who considered themselves "scene". I'm still not entirely sure what that means other than wearing retro clothes and being vaguely condescending all the time. But you know what, that's such a general new york trait it's hard to say it belongs to any one group.

A bunch of people woke up at my house on Saturday after a late night booze marathon. This one chick was so NYC condescending I wanted to elbow her in the face. Somebody was like, "Let's get bagels!" and this chick rolled her eyes and said "I'm from Brooklyn."

"So?" somebody asked.

"So why would I want to eat upstate bagels?"

"upstate" -- in New York speak, this translates to "the crappy part of New York north of where I live."

My friend John said, "You know out here in the sticks, we eat bagels too."

like what the fuck, your bagels are so delicious you ONLY eat brooklyn bagels, our boondock bagels aren't up to your royal tastes? FUCK NYC and the holier than thou NYC attitude.

I'll give the right wing media this - they are actually right about Upper East Coast Elitism. It's a fucking cancer I tells ya.

See I still have trouble figuring out why I should hate this broad, ill defined group of people referred to as "hipsters". My hate is more specific: Brooklynites

[Rumckle]

I remember when they were called "scenesters"- in my memory that did seem like a more specific and well defined group of people. In college I knew people who considered themselves "scene". I'm still not entirely sure what that means other than wearing retro clothes and being vaguely condescending all the time. But you know what, that's such a general new york trait it's hard to say it belongs to any one group.

I thought "scene" was more like, happy emos, I can't really think of another way to describe it. Kinda like Boxxy I guess?

Is this something different? Did "Scene" change its meaning at some point?

[LMNO]

"Scene" is the laziest nomenclature I have ever encountered. 



"No man, we just don't dig on adjectives."

[Cramulus]

I thought "scene" was more like, happy emos, I can't really think of another way to describe it. Kinda like Boxxy I guess?

Is this something different? Did "Scene" change its meaning at some point?

From where I'm sitting

emos became scenesters in like 2003-2004

Emo, by the way, is another one of those ill-defined categories. When I say "Emo", you know what I'm talking about -- it brings to mind a specific attitude, style of dress, musical taste... but I haven't met many people who ever identified as "Emos".

scenesters became hipsters sometime after that. I hadn't heard the word Hipster until like 2008.

"Scene" is the laziest nomenclature I have ever encountered. 



"No man, we just don't dig on adjectives."

I think the laziest one is "indie". Which has the same sort of vague ill-defined anti-establishment vibe as "alternative". Remember when all the rock music in the top 40 was "alternative"? What does that mean if it's the mainstream? I know a ton of people who describe themselves as being into "indie" culture -- at a glance, it doesn't seem much different than Hipster culture. The line between youth subculture and music genre is pretty thin in some places, no?

[East Coast Hustle]

I've been aware of the term "hipster" in it's current context since at least 2000 or 2001. We used to use it to describe all the Seattle chicks who tried to look like Betty Page, hung out at the Cha Cha lounge, and only slept with guys in bands.

I didn't hate them back then, though, because I like the Betty Page look alot more than I like the "borderline homeless/I cut my own hair" look.

Also, I was in a band.

[Cramulus]

"borderline homeless/I cut my own hair"



how does that keep coming back in style?

here's a shot of my girlfriend's old band:



this is a self-described "indie" band.
that dude in the red hat used to be the lead singer. Maybe it's just because he's from Maine, but he dresses explicitly like he's a lumberjack. I never got it. Flannel, big unkempt beard, wool hats...

If you'd asked somebody from 1990 what the future was going to look like, they'd probably be able to call that it'll look like this:



but who could have guessed it would look like this?

[Cain]

Being "indie" means you're an emo kid with facial hair.

Being a "hipster" means you're an indie kid who is being made fun of for being an emo past the age of twenty and so is claiming they are doing it "ironically".

[Cramulus]

  I like that

[Elder Iptuous]

So, if hipsters put on a style that is mockery, then if one were to mock *that* style in order to be ironic would it be revered or dismissed?
Has anyone heard of the Mexican chuntaros style?  Some of my friends have friends into that and I'm guessing thats what happened there...
What a gawdawfully wonderful mess that is!
(for reference  check out www.chuntaritos.com )

[AFK]

I think the laziest one is "indie". Which has the same sort of vague ill-defined anti-establishment vibe as "alternative". Remember when all the rock music in the top 40 was "alternative"? What does that mean if it's the mainstream? I know a ton of people who describe themselves as being into "indie" culture -- at a glance, it doesn't seem much different than Hipster culture. The line between youth subculture and music genre is pretty thin in some places, no?

Yeah.  Though it's a little different when you're in a small town where there aren't very many kids.  I was in high school during the early 90s when Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden were blowing up.  But I was in a tiny high school up in Northern Maine where all we had was Top 40 radio and Country Western.  In the beginning the only exposure to that stuff was through shows like 120 Minutes on MTV before it blew up and became mainstream.  So kids like me were basically just labeled as "the weirdos", we didn't really have labels like "indie" or "alternative".  

But eventually it did break through and everyone started wearing flannels and torn jeans, though most of them still were listening to Paula Abdul and Garth Brooks.  They wanted to look the part, but not necessarily go any deeper than that.  

[Don Coyote]

I see pointy elf shoes are making a comeback.

[Elder Iptuous]

And the girls really eat that stuff up.  They think the guys with plaid elf boots and way too small cowboy hats cocked off to the side are really hot.
We've got to pervert the hipsters scene in such a way...

[Suu]

When I was a kid, and I dressed Goth or punk, I wasn't cool, and I sure as hell wasn't hip, you know what I was called?

"Weird"
"Gay"
"Stupid"
"Retarded"
"Loser"
"Scrub"

et al.