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Hipsters fucking love the hurdy-gurdy

Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, September 18, 2010, 09:58:26 PM

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E.O.T.

Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 04:42:25 AM


ATTN: NURSE ENABLER!!

          this is a perfect example of posting style which is STRICKTLY off-limits to n00bs!!
"a good fight justifies any cause"

tyrannosaurus vex

As not only a metalhead but a mediocre-to-bearable creator of metal, I think I'm qualified when I say that most metalheads are in fact hipsters, but only in the same way that most rappers are hipsters and most (okay, all) radio-pop fans are hipsters. That is, if you like a kind of music because you think you're supposed to, or because you don't know any better, or because all your friends do, or because you think it reinforces whatever self-image you're trying to project, then you are a hipster, and therefore disqualified from actually being counted as a true fan.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: E.O.T. on September 20, 2010, 04:50:09 AM
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 04:36:01 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 20, 2010, 12:58:50 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy.  Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:

evidence:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk

RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster

Self contradictory. Hipsters assimilate Metal culture for their own ironic and retro purposes.
Metalheads have a sense of trveness, and an unassuageable instinct to destroy the hipster for said cultural assimilation.

Behold the use of Judas Priest iconography for Weezer. It is blasphemy of the worst type. The infidels and heretics must be purged.

Doktor Blight,
An un-ironic Metalhead

Um.

Pretty much EVERYONE who was a metalhead after 1990 is a hipster.

OH,

         you mean like YOU - who just got into STRYPER, WINGER & KYX in the last few years because I turned you onto them?!

ALSO;

         -don't mess with the metalheads cuz they're like fucking librarians of guitar and you CANNOT WIN!!

None of those are metal bands.

I think there is some confusion here between "ironically liking butt-rock" and "being willing to light a hobo on fire for tickets to see Converge".

anyway, I got into metal in '89 (Metallica's And Justice For All), and I'm 33. So by Nigel's logic, anyone under the age of 30 who likes metal is a hipster (or a REALLY early bloomer). Out in rural America, where "hip" is a body part and kids drink PBR because it's cheap, there are plenty of metalheads who don't care about irony, intentionally anti-cool affectations, or studded leather belts.
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The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


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East Coast Hustle

Quote from: vexati0n on September 20, 2010, 04:55:05 AM
As not only a metalhead but a mediocre-to-bearable creator of metal, I think I'm qualified when I say that most metalheads are in fact hipsters, but only in the same way that most rappers are hipsters and most (okay, all) radio-pop fans are hipsters. That is, if you like a kind of music because you think you're supposed to, or because you don't know any better, or because all your friends do, or because you think it reinforces whatever self-image you're trying to project, then you are a hipster, and therefore disqualified from actually being counted as a true fan.

most of the metal fans I know like metal because, umm, they like metal. Maybe it's a generational thing, but most of the metalheads I know have liked metal for years in spite of the fact that (apparently until very recently) it detracted from their social capital. If there are a bunch of kids running around liking metal because they think it makes them cool, well, at least they're supporting good bands, so I say more power to them. Beats the hell out of hipsters who support pretentious artsy-fartsy self-referential indie schlock.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

East Coast Hustle

Yeah, I'm looking at YOU, Bats For Lashes fans.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

E.O.T.



GREAT POINTS,

          ech! i did think that i went obviously out of my way to list bands which are by only the furthest stretch of the imagination, metal. or even music. but i think we can rest confidently on the fact that NIGEL, goddess that she is, knows absolutely nothing about metal music.

YES

          at the torch, with earthbound matter, she will shame your ass

HOWEVER

          the closest her itunes comes to metal music is a duo of emo guys who cover the 'misfits' as if it were 'erasure'. it kinda rules.
"a good fight justifies any cause"

tyrannosaurus vex

I don't understand how anyone could consider their music collection complete and come only that close to metal. I mean... no Slayer? No Megadeth? No Borknagar? It's no wonder these people all burn out by age 35.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

E.O.T.

Quote from: vexati0n on September 20, 2010, 05:21:33 AM
I don't understand how anyone could consider their music collection complete and come only that close to metal. I mean... no Slayer? No Megadeth? No Borknagar? It's no wonder these people all burn out by age 35.

WELL

          music taste is curious. how much honky tonk do you have? Classical? Austrian brick shuffle &/ or yodel? for many music listeners the world begins and ends with what they themselves are into.
"a good fight justifies any cause"

AFK

Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 20, 2010, 12:58:50 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy.  Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:

evidence:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk

RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster

Self contradictory. Hipsters assimilate Metal culture for their own ironic and retro purposes.
Metalheads have a sense of trveness, and an unassuageable instinct to destroy the hipster for said cultural assimilation.

Behold the use of Judas Priest iconography for Weezer. It is blasphemy of the worst type. The infidels and heretics must be purged.

Doktor Blight,
An un-ironic Metalhead

Yeah, I was being sarcastic. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Kai

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy.  Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:

evidence:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk

RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster

Actually, thats pretty cool. Is all of their music like that?
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AFK

Quote from: Kai on September 20, 2010, 12:46:05 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy.  Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:

evidence:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk

RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster

Actually, thats pretty cool. Is all of their music like that?

More or less.  That is from their first album Spirit.  If you like that song I think you'll like the whole album.  It's a good blend of traditional Celtic music and melodic death metal.  They also incorporate some Gaulish lyrics into their music which usually come from archaeological artifacts. 

They also did an all-acoustic album called Evocation I which is 100% sung in Gaulish and most of the vocals are provided by the female hurdy-gurdyist, Anna Murphy. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Cramulus

this might make the "hipster" phenomenon make a bit more sense

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2009/12/the-evolution-of-the-hipster-2000-2009.html




if we go back further than 2000, I'm sure we can see an unbroken line between "goth" culture and the super ironic meta-nerd of 2009.

AFK

Go back to 91 or 92 and I suppose we'd have the grunge movement.  In fact, 2006 kinda looks like grunge redux. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Jenne

I have had that 3 wolf/moon t-shirt (in grey, though) for about 20 years.  WTF.  I wear it to sleep in.  My aunt got it for me from Texas.  So weird.

Jasper

It's oddly pleasing to look upon a decade of american culture and realize what garbage it is.

America must be destroyed.  :)