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Started by Phox, September 21, 2010, 12:25:24 AM

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East Coast Hustle

I'm inclined to believe, given what else I've read of your posts recently, that you DO believe what you said in the OP.

:backpedal:
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Phox

Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 21, 2010, 01:05:39 AM
I'm inclined to believe, given what else I've read of your posts recently, that you DO believe what you said in the OP.

:backpedal:

Believe what you want, ECH. Read into it what you will, and take it however you like. That's why it is here, after all.

Kai

Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 12:42:34 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 12:35:54 AM
Since this is in Or Kill Me, I'd like to discuss the contents but don't want to mistake an essay with a rant. The latter being something which I understand more as an outburst of emotion and therefore less subject to criticism. So please let me know which one this is.

Little bit of both really. The concepts here have been going through my head for years, but this particular iteration was written as an emotional outburst, sort of. In response to several things, the most important of which was the dream it mentions. I wanted to refine it to make it more essay-like, but screw it, here it is. And criticize away, I don't mind.

Okay. My criticism on the ideas is they are epistemologically waaaay below standards. You are arguing at once, universal ignorance /and/ omnipotence. That goes beyond simple solipsism, which is usually frowned upon via barstools around here.
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Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 12:25:24 AM
But humans still carry on in the search for Truth.  The gods have been replaced with science, but nothing has really changed.


When gods and superstition soley ruled people's thinking those people died of things like a rotten tooth, or a small wound getting slowly more and more infected. Medical science alone has had a profound impact on the way that humans live their lives everyday.

Not to mention the multitude of benefits other scientific disciplines have given humanity.
Culture, transportation, music, education (lol)... pretty much everything humans do is affected by technology and science.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Phox

Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 01:43:16 AM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 12:42:34 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 12:35:54 AM
Since this is in Or Kill Me, I'd like to discuss the contents but don't want to mistake an essay with a rant. The latter being something which I understand more as an outburst of emotion and therefore less subject to criticism. So please let me know which one this is.

Little bit of both really. The concepts here have been going through my head for years, but this particular iteration was written as an emotional outburst, sort of. In response to several things, the most important of which was the dream it mentions. I wanted to refine it to make it more essay-like, but screw it, here it is. And criticize away, I don't mind.

Okay. My criticism on the ideas is they are epistemologically waaaay below standards. You are arguing at once, universal ignorance /and/ omnipotence. That goes beyond simple solipsism, which is usually frowned upon via barstools around here.

Yeah, I know. I was being intentionally antagonistic towards ECH. Didn't mean to alienate Dok with it. I was kinda looking forward to everyone else tearing it apart piece by piece, but now I don't care.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 01:47:33 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 01:43:16 AM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 12:42:34 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 12:35:54 AM
Since this is in Or Kill Me, I'd like to discuss the contents but don't want to mistake an essay with a rant. The latter being something which I understand more as an outburst of emotion and therefore less subject to criticism. So please let me know which one this is.

Little bit of both really. The concepts here have been going through my head for years, but this particular iteration was written as an emotional outburst, sort of. In response to several things, the most important of which was the dream it mentions. I wanted to refine it to make it more essay-like, but screw it, here it is. And criticize away, I don't mind.

Okay. My criticism on the ideas is they are epistemologically waaaay below standards. You are arguing at once, universal ignorance /and/ omnipotence. That goes beyond simple solipsism, which is usually frowned upon via barstools around here.

Yeah, I know. I was being intentionally antagonistic towards ECH. Didn't mean to alienate Dok with it. I was kinda looking forward to everyone else tearing it apart piece by piece, but now I don't care.

Well, after today, I'm kind of willing to believe the worst of everyone. 
Molon Lube

Phox

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 01:51:06 AM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 01:47:33 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 01:43:16 AM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 12:42:34 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 12:35:54 AM
Since this is in Or Kill Me, I'd like to discuss the contents but don't want to mistake an essay with a rant. The latter being something which I understand more as an outburst of emotion and therefore less subject to criticism. So please let me know which one this is.

Little bit of both really. The concepts here have been going through my head for years, but this particular iteration was written as an emotional outburst, sort of. In response to several things, the most important of which was the dream it mentions. I wanted to refine it to make it more essay-like, but screw it, here it is. And criticize away, I don't mind.

Okay. My criticism on the ideas is they are epistemologically waaaay below standards. You are arguing at once, universal ignorance /and/ omnipotence. That goes beyond simple solipsism, which is usually frowned upon via barstools around here.

Yeah, I know. I was being intentionally antagonistic towards ECH. Didn't mean to alienate Dok with it. I was kinda looking forward to everyone else tearing it apart piece by piece, but now I don't care.

Well, after today, I'm kind of willing to believe the worst of everyone. 

I understand, Dok. I stupidly let my real life depression get mixed in with what was going on here, and kamikaze'd myself. I'll accept what I get. I won't post any of yuorr threads, or any that you might be interested. Sorry I fucked everything up, Dok.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 01:56:15 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 01:51:06 AM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 01:47:33 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 01:43:16 AM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 12:42:34 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 12:35:54 AM
Since this is in Or Kill Me, I'd like to discuss the contents but don't want to mistake an essay with a rant. The latter being something which I understand more as an outburst of emotion and therefore less subject to criticism. So please let me know which one this is.

Little bit of both really. The concepts here have been going through my head for years, but this particular iteration was written as an emotional outburst, sort of. In response to several things, the most important of which was the dream it mentions. I wanted to refine it to make it more essay-like, but screw it, here it is. And criticize away, I don't mind.

Okay. My criticism on the ideas is they are epistemologically waaaay below standards. You are arguing at once, universal ignorance /and/ omnipotence. That goes beyond simple solipsism, which is usually frowned upon via barstools around here.

Yeah, I know. I was being intentionally antagonistic towards ECH. Didn't mean to alienate Dok with it. I was kinda looking forward to everyone else tearing it apart piece by piece, but now I don't care.

Well, after today, I'm kind of willing to believe the worst of everyone. 

I understand, Dok. I stupidly let my real life depression get mixed in with what was going on here, and kamikaze'd myself. I'll accept what I get. I won't post any of yuorr threads, or any that you might be interested. Sorry I fucked everything up, Dok.

Um, stop being so sorry and post something else, to redeem yourself.  You can always recover on PD, unless you are Eldora, Hugh, or Fomentor.
Molon Lube

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Triple Zero on September 21, 2010, 02:04:54 AM
And they had to work HARD to attain that status.

Oh, yeah.  That wasn't just one bad thread, nosiree.
Molon Lube

Phox

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 02:04:06 AM
Um, stop being so sorry and post something else, to redeem yourself.  You can always recover on PD, unless you are Eldora, Hugh, or Fomentor.

Will do, then. Just didn't want to unintentionally make things worse. 





East Coast Hustle

Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 01:47:33 AM

Yeah, I know. I was being intentionally antagonistic towards ECH.

Oh ho ho!

Well, spanky, two can play at that game.

Bummer for you is, one of those two is WAY better at it. PROTIP: It's not you.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 21, 2010, 03:02:24 AM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 21, 2010, 01:47:33 AM

Yeah, I know. I was being intentionally antagonistic towards ECH.

Oh ho ho!

Well, spanky, two can play at that game.

Bummer for you is, one of those two is WAY better at it. PROTIP: It's not you.

Well, this is going to get ugly.

Molon Lube

East Coast Hustle

Au contraire. I can raise being needlessly antagonistic to an art form, good sir.

Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 21, 2010, 03:08:14 AM
Au contraire. I can raise being needlessly antagonistic to an art form, good sir.

We have this art show that's gotten to Tucson and gotten stuck.  It's a Chinese thing, worth googling, called "Bodies".

That's an art form, too.  And it probably got less blood on the walls.

Here:  http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/tucson/plan-your-visit.html
Molon Lube