Stuxnet: An actual Cyber attack weapon

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hmm..
i hadn't heard of it when it was first discovered.  interesting, have to do some homework on this one!
article does seem rather sensational, however, and repetition of scary phrases does make me raise an eyebrow....
it'll be interesting to see what comes of this.

also, SCADA being attacked has been a known vulnerability for many years now.  i heard a lecture on it my first year in university, and the guy was practically flipping out on stage about how dangerous our situation is because of it.
from what i understand, precious little has actually been done about it.
i'm actually surprised a large scale one hasn't already occurred...

Just for giggles picture what it could do with a traffic grid during rush hour in a major city.

[Elder Iptuous]

hmmm....
where was i reading about an automobile software worm that could shut down traffic?....


ETA
ah, yeah....
here it is: http://earlywarn.blogspot.com/2010/08/city-crippler-car-worms.html
i think someone posted the link on this forum?

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hmmm....
where was i reading about an automobile software worm that could shut down traffic?....

or a comsat grid...

Wheeeee!

[Elder Iptuous]

or some major trucking operations.
hit some food distribution networks.
two meals from anarchy in this JIT distribution age, no?

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or some major trucking operations.
hit some food distribution networks.
two meals from anarchy in this JIT distribution age, no?

Add the confusion of ALL of it happening at the exact same moment.

I need more guns.

[Elder Iptuous]

you've already got guns...
you need more ammo.
I sell a very fine array of suppressors and am a distributor for a high quality subsonic ammunition that you will be needing...  pm me for address 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

or some major trucking operations.
hit some food distribution networks.
two meals from anarchy in this JIT distribution age, no?

Add the confusion of ALL of it happening at the exact same moment.

I need more guns.

You could heavily damage the infrastructure of a whole country without ever dropping a bomb or firing a bullet, and let the angry citizens take care of the rest...

I think you might be right Charley.

Presumably this could be programmed in such a way that it would detect the use of a particular human language and target that. Say if Iran was the target, it would target computers that have Farsi on it.

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or some major trucking operations.
hit some food distribution networks.
two meals from anarchy in this JIT distribution age, no?

Add the confusion of ALL of it happening at the exact same moment.

I need more guns.

You could heavily damage the infrastructure of a whole country without ever dropping a bomb or firing a bullet, and let the angry citizens take care of the rest...

I think you might be right Charley.

Presumably this could be programmed in such a way that it would detect the use of a particular human language and target that. Say if Iran was the target, it would target computers that have Farsi on it.

You are thinking too small.

If I am correct, it will be worldwide.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

or some major trucking operations.
hit some food distribution networks.
two meals from anarchy in this JIT distribution age, no?

Add the confusion of ALL of it happening at the exact same moment.

I need more guns.

You could heavily damage the infrastructure of a whole country without ever dropping a bomb or firing a bullet, and let the angry citizens take care of the rest...

I think you might be right Charley.

Presumably this could be programmed in such a way that it would detect the use of a particular human language and target that. Say if Iran was the target, it would target computers that have Farsi on it.

You are thinking too small.

If I am correct, it will be worldwide.

What would be the purpose of targeting your own systems? (Presuming US/Israeli agency)

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or some major trucking operations.
hit some food distribution networks.
two meals from anarchy in this JIT distribution age, no?

Add the confusion of ALL of it happening at the exact same moment.

I need more guns.

You could heavily damage the infrastructure of a whole country without ever dropping a bomb or firing a bullet, and let the angry citizens take care of the rest...

I think you might be right Charley.

Presumably this could be programmed in such a way that it would detect the use of a particular human language and target that. Say if Iran was the target, it would target computers that have Farsi on it.

You are thinking too small.

If I am correct, it will be worldwide.

What would be the purpose of targeting your own systems? (Presuming US/Israeli agency)

TSK.

Suppose a group of powerful, very rich people without morals or loyalty wanted more power. Still thinking too small.

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Or even worse, suppose they are doing it for our own good and they are idealists?

[Requia ☣]

Charley, I don't know how much we can trust the report, but:

"A geographical distribution of computers hit by Stuxnet, which Microsoft produced in July, found Iran to be the apparent epicenter of the Stuxnet infections. That suggests that any enemy of Iran with advanced cyber war capability might be involved, Langner says. The US is acknowledged to have that ability, and Israel is also reported to have a formidable offensive cyber-war-fighting capability."

I smell political motives. 

It could be Iranian in origin as well, and got loose on accident rather than intent.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Or even worse, suppose they are doing it for our own good and they are idealists?

Ah, I see- it would be a Technofascist take-over sort of thing, or conversely Primitivists/Eco-terrorists.

Instead of owning the means of production, as a Marxist would say, it's control of the machines directly involved in production.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Charley, I don't know how much we can trust the report, but:

"A geographical distribution of computers hit by Stuxnet, which Microsoft produced in July, found Iran to be the apparent epicenter of the Stuxnet infections. That suggests that any enemy of Iran with advanced cyber war capability might be involved, Langner says. The US is acknowledged to have that ability, and Israel is also reported to have a formidable offensive cyber-war-fighting capability."

I smell political motives. 

It could be Iranian in origin as well, and got loose on accident rather than intent.

Possible thought- Chinese origin, Indian target.

[Jasper]

I don't habeeb it.