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Started by Disco Pickle, October 15, 2010, 02:11:43 PM

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 15, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
It definitely will not be relevant in my city.  We are a major resettlement site for Somali refugees and that population has increased quite dramatically since 2000.  As you might expect, it's causing quite a bit of angst among segments of the old French white population. 

It will do them good.
Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:00:20 PM
Why is this relevant, DP?

I'm not sure it's relevant to anything except to confirm what we really already know, that people of the same race tend to live in the same areas of a city, but that wasn't why I was posting it.

I thought it was an interesting idea and could provide a conversation starter on race relations as relates to racial congregating in metropolitan areas, or not.

pretty maps though. 
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:00:20 PM
Why is this relevant, DP?

I'm not sure it's relevant to anything except to confirm what we really already know, that people of the same race tend to live in the same areas of a city, but that wasn't why I was posting it.

I thought it was an interesting idea and could provide a conversation starter on race relations as relates to racial congregating in metropolitan areas, or not.

pretty maps though. 

To me, it's just another way of dividing people.  Great propaganda piece, though.  It reduces race and culture to a nice, easily viewed object that serves to scare the shit out of the soccer moms.

"YOU are here.  THEY are there.  Don't go there."
Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:00:20 PM
Why is this relevant, DP?

I'm not sure it's relevant to anything except to confirm what we really already know, that people of the same race tend to live in the same areas of a city, but that wasn't why I was posting it.

I thought it was an interesting idea and could provide a conversation starter on race relations as relates to racial congregating in metropolitan areas, or not.

pretty maps though. 

To me, it's just another way of dividing people.  Great propaganda piece, though.  It reduces race and culture to a nice, easily viewed object that serves to scare the shit out of the soccer moms.

"YOU are here.  THEY are there.  Don't go there."


I doubt that was the intent of the creator, but I don't know him so I can't confirm that.

I see your point how it could easily be used in that regard.  I wasn't thinking of it in quite so cynical a manner.

"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:17:33 PM
I doubt that was the intent of the creator, but I don't know him so I can't confirm that.

I can't see any other reason for it.  Any time people talk about race and/or racial demographics, they're talking about division.

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:17:33 PM
I see your point how it could easily be used in that regard.  I wasn't thinking of it in quite so cynical a manner.

That's because I'm a horrible cunt, and I see everything in the worst possible light.  Thus I am rarely disappointed, and occasionally pleasantly surprised.
Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

but we choose to divide ourselves. 

The fact that most people never live more than 10 miles from where they were born could be playing a large factor in keeping the racial divisions in neighborhoods.  Where you were born becomes your home and a place that you identify as such.

I'd be interested to know where this data correlates to income and property values.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

Sure.

THEY live there.  Don't go there.
Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

Sure.

THEY live there.  Don't go there.

do you think that will ever go away?
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:40:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

Sure.

THEY live there.  Don't go there.

do you think that will ever go away?

Not if we're careful to make sure people don't go around THEM. 

You know, for the sake of property values.
Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:40:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

Sure.

THEY live there.  Don't go there.

do you think that will ever go away?

Not if we're careful to make sure people don't go around THEM. 

You know, for the sake of property values.

does that mean you think that only whites think that way?  (before you get all pissed, Im asking because Im not clear on what you're saying)

your comment about property values seemed to imply something like that to me.  I could be mistaken.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:45:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:40:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

Sure.

THEY live there.  Don't go there.

do you think that will ever go away?

Not if we're careful to make sure people don't go around THEM. 

You know, for the sake of property values.

does that mean you think that only whites think that way?  (before you get all pissed, Im asking because Im not clear on what you're saying)

your comment about property values seemed to imply something like that to me.  I could be mistaken.


1.  Monkeys of all varieties think that way.

2.  You're the one who brought up income and property values.  Because we know that THEY are always poor.
Molon Lube

AFK

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 15, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
It definitely will not be relevant in my city.  We are a major resettlement site for Somali refugees and that population has increased quite dramatically since 2000.  As you might expect, it's causing quite a bit of angst among segments of the old French white population. 

It will do them good.

They've had a great model of acceptance to.  Like when the mayor (now former mayor) publicly announced to the Somali community that they were ruining the city and needed to stop moving in.  Nevermind that the facts clearly show it is the poor white population of the area that is the biggest burden upon social services and welfare services, not the Somalis.  
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 15, 2010, 05:47:23 PM

They've had a great model of acceptance to.  Like when the mayor (now former mayor) publicly announced to the Somali community that they were ruining the city and needed to stop moving in.  Nevermind that the facts clearly show it is the poor white population of the area that is the biggest burden upon social services and welfare services, not the Somalis.  

:lulz:

For real?  He actually said that?

:lulz:
Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:45:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:40:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

Sure.

THEY live there.  Don't go there.

do you think that will ever go away?

Not if we're careful to make sure people don't go around THEM. 

You know, for the sake of property values.

does that mean you think that only whites think that way?  (before you get all pissed, Im asking because Im not clear on what you're saying)

your comment about property values seemed to imply something like that to me.  I could be mistaken.


1.  Monkeys of all varieties think that way.

2.  You're the one who brought up income and property values.  Because we know that THEY are always poor.


who is THEY?  anyone you're not?
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:45:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:40:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

Sure.

THEY live there.  Don't go there.

do you think that will ever go away?

Not if we're careful to make sure people don't go around THEM. 

You know, for the sake of property values.

does that mean you think that only whites think that way?  (before you get all pissed, Im asking because Im not clear on what you're saying)

your comment about property values seemed to imply something like that to me.  I could be mistaken.


1.  Monkeys of all varieties think that way.

2.  You're the one who brought up income and property values.  Because we know that THEY are always poor.


who is THEY?  anyone you're not?

That's what I'm taking away from this thread.
Molon Lube