Legend of the Green Dragon

[Cramulus]

fuck! I dunno what to do, man. I guess none of the notes on http://lotgd.maartengoldstein.com/ were helpful?

in particular, this:

Logging in manually from the login page should work fine but changing your skin to an unsupported one might crash the app! In that case, the skin should be reset to the previous one and you should be automatically logged back in once you restart the app. Should this not work, try setting your account's skin back to "jade" using a browser and then restarting the app.

and

Only supports the 'Jade' skin officially.

[Cramulus]

If there's an option for allowing people to opt out of PvP, I probably won't play anymore as that's 95% of the fun for me.

there's an impasse between people like LMNO that said they stopped playing because they were tired of getting killed randomly, and people who say they'll stop playing if they can't kill people randomly.

My thinking is that since very few players are going to disable PvP entirely, it shouldn't affect you too much.

Though, truth be told, I haven't played in about a week, or since I learned that 100 gems only allows you to see what sort of buffs you can get for EVEN MORE gems.

I severely decreased the cost of activating clan buffs. again, this part of the game is meant to be a long term goal. To put things in perspective, it took your clan a mere 3 days to acquire 100 gems. This is something you'll make progress towards over time. Instant power is no fun either.

[LMNO]

To be clear, I don't mind PvP, but I prefer to be around for it.  So far, I've only been attacked when I'm offline.

[Cramulus]

ah but that's the nature of the beast - you can only attack people that are offline.

[LMNO]

ah but that's the nature of the beast - you can only attack people that are offline.

What?


That's... silly.  What's the point of the chat/message boards/ye olde mail if you can't taunt, pick fights, and scheme against people playing at the same time as you?

I mean, I can just keep my computer at home logged in and on forever, and be invulnerable to attack.

[Cramulus]

That's... silly.  What's the point of the chat/message boards/ye olde mail if you can't taunt, pick fights, and scheme against people playing at the same time as you?

This isn't an MMO where there are hundreds of players online at the same time. So the way I read it, the thing is designed so that you can interact with people who aren't playing at the same time as you.

In the old BBS version, LORD, you could attack other people that were online. (assuming you were on a BBS with more than one phone line!) It would enter you into a chat-room kind of situation where you could take turns in more or less real-time. It wasn't very fun for a few reasons:

1. because it was turn based, if one player got up and walked away, you'd be sitting there forever waiting for him to move
2. people would jump you right after you signed on, thereby ending your day. Keep in mind that if you get killed while offline, it doesn't cost you a day, just a sliver of XP. Getting PvP'd while playing turned out to be WAY more frustrating than dying in the forest or getting knifed at the inn.

I mean, I can just keep my computer at home logged in and on forever, and be invulnerable to attack.

true, but you'll timeout after something like 900 seconds

[East Coast Hustle]

Instant power is no fun either.

Ho ho ho! You, my friend, are most epically wrong about THAT.

[Cramulus]

Reskin discussion:

So if we're going to rewrite the game, we'll need a good core concept.

Here's my pitch:

The game takes place in a fantasy world where the illuminatti is in control. They have the world locked down using orbital mind control lasers. In most places in the world, everybody's become a cabbage. They have also summoned all sorts of horrible monsters, both silly and lovecraftian, which fill the forests between the cities.


The player is a new recruit in the Discordian Society. He takes up arms against the monsters and intends to slay the <end boss>. The end boss is currently a green dragon, but we should come up with something more thematic.


The masters all become Discordian figures. We can use the Discordian saints as well as any of the other established discordian figures.

Many of the titles (peasant, hipster, goon, squire, etc) change to more Discordian flavored titles: Pope, bishop, cardinal, chaplain, reverend, doktor, professor.


Eventually the races and classes will change names, but not sure what yet. Perhaps something involving the 5 discordian elements, boom, sweet, prickle, setting orange, and that other one I always forget.


The overall intent is that the game is very silly, it still has a fantasy sword & sorcery feel, but it also contains a lot of Discordian humor and stuff which may get people more interested in this Eris nonsense.

What do you guys think about this idea?

I've started the reskin, here's the text you now get on newbie isle:


You are in a small village in the middle of a small wooded island. Around you, other adventurers are bumbling about, running into walls and punching trees.

A nearby sign reads: "This is the isle where new adventurers are fished out of the sea. It is less dangerous and has fewer options than the rest of the world so as to be less confusing to your noobish little minds. You may leave this isle at any time."

Outside of this island, the world has become a very dangerous place. The Illuminati have taken over the world and made its people into cabbages. Only a few small groups of people have the willpower to resist their orbital mind lasers. You have chosen to take up arms against the evil Illuminati and the creatures they have summoned into this world.



and the Forest now looks like this:


The Forest, home to evil creatures and evildoers of all sorts.

The Illuminati have filled the land between the cities with a thick hedge maze. You walk in the cool shadows at the bottom of tall green canyons. The maze is dizzying, its narrow leafy channels double back on themselves, sometimes opening into round clearings paved with brick.

The walls of the hedge maze breathe as if they are watching you. Occasionally, you hear the sounds of combat in nearby parts of the maze.

Years ago, the Illuminati encircled the cities with these hedge mazes and filled them with monsters. Every day, people must venture into the mazes and beat back the vile beasts, or the cities will be overrun.



Feedback Requested
Writers Welcome

[LMNO]

Ok, trying the iApp again.  What's the server name I should be using for the thing to direct to?

[Cramulus]

the more I think about it, the less I like the Illuminati as an antagonist.

Mainly because this has to be a fantasy universe illuminati and not the RAW illuminati, so it might as well be any shadowy cabal of assholes.

I think the right way to redesign this would be to FIRST think of the end boss. The Green Dragon.

I want to change the Green Dragon into something else. But what would be a good antagonist?

[LMNO]

AKK.

[AFK]

Steve Jackson

[East Coast Hustle]

Steve Jobs.

[Freeky]

"BOB" Dobbs

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Frank Zappa.