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Started by Cuddlefish, November 05, 2010, 12:16:55 AM

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Cuddlefish

Maybe you've seen/heard of something similar, or have a certain degree of insight as to potential meanings or interpretations.

1) Double Ouroboros - This is the reason I don't do nitrous oxide. The last time I consumed this... weirdness, I figured out the meaning of life. Three times. Then forgot it. Three times. Not cool. Anyhow, after my three "OMG, it all makes perfect sense!" moments, the only thing I could remember about my "visions" was an image similar to the Ouroboros, except it wasn't a snake, it was made out of... energy, or something. And instead of swallowing its own "tail," it seemed that each end, both "head" and "tail," were simultaneously consuming each other. Has anyone seen anything similar to this anywhere?

2) Pentagonal Hexacontehedron - This image came to me in a dream. Running sand through my fingers, I noticed a glass-like grain of sand in the shape of a pentagonal hexacontehedron. With one exception. Instead of being made up of irregular pentagons, each face was a perfect pentagon. Any math spags know if such a shape is even possible?
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Elder Iptuous

yeppa, every time i figure out the supreme truth it has to do with duality and geometry....

Cuddlefish

Quote from: Iptuous on November 05, 2010, 01:01:50 AM
yeppa, every time i figure out the supreme truth it has to do with duality and geometry....


Sarcasm?  :? ?

I don't even know anything about geometry, I don't know where that image even came from.
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Triple Zero

In normal 3D space, the regular dodecahedron (aka the "d12" for roleplaying spags) is the only solid whose faces are made up of only regular pentagons.

But it has only 12 faces instead of 60.

There is a similar object that is made up of regular hexagons and regular pentagons, with 60 faces. It's best known as the "buckyball" named after Buckminster Fuller: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckyball The mathematical name for it is truncated icosahedron.

Maybe there is some weird variation of bent-up 3D space in which a 60 sided regular pentagon-only solid is possible, but I'm not really good with topology or whatever kind of math would be involved.

The ouroubouros is one of my favourite symbols, but apart from that I can't say much about your vision :) P3NT might know a thing or two, though.
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Triple Zero

You can fit an infinite number of "regular" pentagons on the hyperbolic plane, btw:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order-4_pentagonal_tiling

I dunno if they still count as "regular" though because everything on the hyperbolic plane is kind of bent.
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The double Ouroboros means that you wish your father had a penis bigger than your mother's—it's a manifestation of your superego's latent desire to see your parents perform autofellatio while competing in a naked round of Twister.

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Triple Zero

Another one: the 120-Cell

This is a 4-dimensional object whose surface is made of 120 regular dodecahedrons.

(because the surface of a 4D object is made of 3D "faces" or cells)
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Don Coyote

Quote from: Triple Zero on November 05, 2010, 01:20:32 AM
Another one: the 120-Cell

This is a 4-dimensional object whose surface is made of 120 regular dodecahedrons.

(because the surface of a 4D object is made of 3D "faces" or cells)

WHY DID YOU DO THAT?!??!?!?!

WHY DID I CLICK IT?!?!?!?!?!?!? :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

4d shapes make my head hurt.

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: Cuddlefist on November 05, 2010, 01:03:55 AM
Sarcasm?  :? ?

I don't even know anything about geometry, I don't know where that image even came from.

no... not sarcasm.
i'm just saying that i've had several trips where i 'figured it all out' and it's always reduced down to duality and some geometric seed in my head...
a few of the times, the dualism turned in to a good/evil thing and it becomes a bad(or at least intense) trip.
(zoroaster, in MY heads?!)  the wife was a manifestation angra mainyu in one instance, and the ouroboros figured heavily into that trip.

Cuddlefish

Quote from: Iptuous on November 05, 2010, 12:42:42 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefist on November 05, 2010, 01:03:55 AM
Sarcasm?  :? ?

I don't even know anything about geometry, I don't know where that image even came from.

no... not sarcasm.
i'm just saying that i've had several trips where i 'figured it all out' and it's always reduced down to duality and some geometric seed in my head...
a few of the times, the dualism turned in to a good/evil thing and it becomes a bad(or at least intense) trip.
(zoroaster, in MY heads?!)  the wife was a manifestation angra mainyu in one instance, and the ouroboros figured heavily into that trip.

Cool beans. I couldn't tell by your tone.

Erm, you're typing, so I couldn't tell by your toner?
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Disco Pickle

Quote from: Triple Zero on November 05, 2010, 01:20:32 AM
Another one: the 120-Cell

This is a 4-dimensional object whose surface is made of 120 regular dodecahedrons.

(because the surface of a 4D object is made of 3D "faces" or cells)

love those.  now im thinking about modeling one since I have some down time at work.
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Richter

Quote from: Cuddlefist on November 05, 2010, 12:16:55 AM
Maybe you've seen/heard of something similar, or have a certain degree of insight as to potential meanings or interpretations.

1) Double Ouroboros - This is the reason I don't do nitrous oxide. The last time I consumed this... weirdness, I figured out the meaning of life. Three times. Then forgot it. Three times. Not cool. Anyhow, after my three "OMG, it all makes perfect sense!" moments, the only thing I could remember about my "visions" was an image similar to the Ouroboros, except it wasn't a snake, it was made out of... energy, or something. And instead of swallowing its own "tail," it seemed that each end, both "head" and "tail," were simultaneously consuming each other. Has anyone seen anything similar to this anywhere?


That's pretty cool.  Really it's everythign eating everythign else at once.  And More than eating, everythign is everything'ing everything else all at once.  And it jsut keeps going.  Kai's the person to talk to about this though.
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Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

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