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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, November 12, 2010, 08:33:39 PM

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Jenne

Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 12, 2010, 10:10:19 PM
Quote from: Jenne on November 12, 2010, 09:36:59 PM
I expected he'd do SOME of what he campaigned for.

He's kept us fighting in Afghanistan, that's a promise he kept.   :lulz:

Knowing Afghans and Afghanistan the way I do, there's good and bad to that.

It's just too bad the Afghans aren't embracing the good that's there enough to make much of a difference so far.

East Coast Hustle

In a realpolitik sense, if the reputed rare earth metals that are supposed to be under Afghanistan are actually there, we can't afford to ever leave that country.
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2010, 08:33:39 PM
QuoteWASHINGTON — The U.S. Supreme Court decided Friday to allow the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays in the military to remain in place while a federal appeals court considers the issue.

The court did not comment in denying a request from the Log Cabin Republicans, a gay rights group, to step into the federal court review of "don't ask, don't tell." The Obama administration urged the high court not to get involved at this time.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40149635/ns/politics-more_politics/

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Cain

Quote from: First City Hustle on November 12, 2010, 11:18:12 PM
In a realpolitik sense, if the reputed rare earth metals that are supposed to be under Afghanistan are actually there, we can't afford to ever leave that country.

Lithium is going to be important, when the oil runs out, it's true.

Unfortunately, the head of the USGS's Afghanistan Minerals Project has said he is unaware of any discoveries of lithium deposits in the country.

So expect an invasion/covert subversion/military coup to topple Evo Morales in the next decade or two.  Zimbabwe might be on the cards also, though that would upset China, who have their own considerable reserves and mines of the stuff.

Death

I wish people would've seen him as the stinknut he was bad in 08.  He's from Chicago, come on.  I don't even see how the fuck can anyone feel comfortable in trusting either R's or D's anymore anyway.
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Placid Dingo

Quote from: Death on November 14, 2010, 08:35:10 AM
I wish people would've seen him as the stinknut he was bad in 08.  He's from Chicago, come on.  I don't even see how the fuck can anyone feel comfortable in trusting either R's or D's anymore anyway.

Maybe we could have had the sane alternative.


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Quote from: Death on November 14, 2010, 08:35:10 AM
I wish people would've seen him as the stinknut he was bad in 08.  He's from Chicago, come on.  I don't even see how the fuck can anyone feel comfortable in trusting either R's or D's anymore anyway.

It was a question of what was funnier:

1.  A Black man being elected and the inevitable response from the redneck swine, or

2.  McCain/Palin, and the hilarity they'd do all on their own.

In the end, I voted for option 1.
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Phox

Quote from: Death on November 14, 2010, 08:35:10 AM
I wish people would've seen him as the stinknut he was bad in 08.  He's from Chicago, come on.  I don't even see how the fuck can anyone feel comfortable in trusting either R's or D's anymore anyway.

1. Two party system means exactly that.
2. I'm not entirely sure that the folks here understand Chicago politics in the way we do.  :lulz:

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Phox on November 14, 2010, 10:24:52 PM
Quote from: Death on November 14, 2010, 08:35:10 AM
I wish people would've seen him as the stinknut he was bad in 08.  He's from Chicago, come on.  I don't even see how the fuck can anyone feel comfortable in trusting either R's or D's anymore anyway.

1. Two party system means exactly that.
2. I'm not entirely sure that the folks here understand Chicago politics in the way we do.  :lulz:

1.  Duverger's Law means that a 2 party system is all you'll ever have.

2.  HAR!  I spent more time in Chicago than you have on the planet.  I made a comment about Obama back in the day, something about never trusting a Chicago politician and most especially never trusting a Chicago politician that looks clean, but I'm too lazy to go look for it.  In any case, you aren't old enough to understand Chicago politics properly.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Phox

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2010, 10:27:53 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 14, 2010, 10:24:52 PM
Quote from: Death on November 14, 2010, 08:35:10 AM
I wish people would've seen him as the stinknut he was bad in 08.  He's from Chicago, come on.  I don't even see how the fuck can anyone feel comfortable in trusting either R's or D's anymore anyway.

1. Two party system means exactly that.
2. I'm not entirely sure that the folks here understand Chicago politics in the way we do.  :lulz:

1.  Duverger's Law means that a 2 party system is all you'll ever have.

2.  HAR!  I spent more time in Chicago than you have on the planet.  I made a comment about Obama back in the day, something about never trusting a Chicago politician and most especially never trusting a Chicago politician that looks clean, but I'm too lazy to go look for it.  In any case, you aren't old enough to understand Chicago politics properly.
:lulz:

I wasn't referring to you, Roger, though I can see why you might take it that way. You, Cain, and ECH are the only people here who I would imagine have an inkling of Chicago politics, no offense to anyone else. But you are right, Chicago politics take decades to understand properly.

the last yatto

Quote from: Placid Dingo on November 14, 2010, 11:50:17 AM
Quote from: Death on November 14, 2010, 08:35:10 AM
I wish people would've seen him as the stinknut he was bad in 08.  He's from Chicago, come on.  I don't even see how the fuck can anyone feel comfortable in trusting either R's or D's anymore anyway.

Maybe we could have had the sane alternative.




I voted Emperor Vermin
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Phox on November 14, 2010, 10:36:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2010, 10:27:53 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 14, 2010, 10:24:52 PM
Quote from: Death on November 14, 2010, 08:35:10 AM
I wish people would've seen him as the stinknut he was bad in 08.  He's from Chicago, come on.  I don't even see how the fuck can anyone feel comfortable in trusting either R's or D's anymore anyway.

1. Two party system means exactly that.
2. I'm not entirely sure that the folks here understand Chicago politics in the way we do.  :lulz:

1.  Duverger's Law means that a 2 party system is all you'll ever have.

2.  HAR!  I spent more time in Chicago than you have on the planet.  I made a comment about Obama back in the day, something about never trusting a Chicago politician and most especially never trusting a Chicago politician that looks clean, but I'm too lazy to go look for it.  In any case, you aren't old enough to understand Chicago politics properly.
:lulz:

I wasn't referring to you, Roger, though I can see why you might take it that way. You, Cain, and ECH are the only people here who I would imagine have an inkling of Chicago politics, no offense to anyone else. But you are right, Chicago politics take decades to understand properly.


It's not so much the time spent at it, as the required cynicism that only comes with decades of watching politicians and preachers lie.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Phox

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2010, 10:47:40 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 14, 2010, 10:36:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2010, 10:27:53 PM
Quote from: Phox on November 14, 2010, 10:24:52 PM
Quote from: Death on November 14, 2010, 08:35:10 AM
I wish people would've seen him as the stinknut he was bad in 08.  He's from Chicago, come on.  I don't even see how the fuck can anyone feel comfortable in trusting either R's or D's anymore anyway.

1. Two party system means exactly that.
2. I'm not entirely sure that the folks here understand Chicago politics in the way we do.  :lulz:

1.  Duverger's Law means that a 2 party system is all you'll ever have.

2.  HAR!  I spent more time in Chicago than you have on the planet.  I made a comment about Obama back in the day, something about never trusting a Chicago politician and most especially never trusting a Chicago politician that looks clean, but I'm too lazy to go look for it.  In any case, you aren't old enough to understand Chicago politics properly.
:lulz:

I wasn't referring to you, Roger, though I can see why you might take it that way. You, Cain, and ECH are the only people here who I would imagine have an inkling of Chicago politics, no offense to anyone else. But you are right, Chicago politics take decades to understand properly.


It's not so much the time spent at it, as the required cynicism that only comes with decades of watching politicians and preachers lie.

Yeah, I'm still too young and idealistic to truly distrust people's intentions. Give me a few more decades of caring, and then I'll see where I'm at.