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Started by NWC, November 20, 2010, 06:43:33 PM

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/the-pope/8148899/Pope-approves-use-of-condoms-in-fight-against-Aids.html


Quote[...] may be [...] a male prostitute uses a condom [...] to redevelop the understanding that [...] everything is permitted

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Catholicism takes back the easiest thing to point at when discussing the problems of organized religion.

Not sure how I feel about this. I don't really know how much influence the pope has when he says "don't use a condom", so I feel like this switch won't change much. This does make the Church look slightly less douchy though, which [very] slightly lessens the justification of my contempt for it. I don't feel any differently, but that was always a great line to throw out when discussing/arguing about organized vs disorganized religion with my girlfriend, which happens often enough.

Thoughts?
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It has potentially huge ramifications in slowing the spread of HIV in underdeveloped countries.
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Well, they were the people who said NOT to use a condom in the first place.  They had huge campaigns in Africa.

Gosh, I hope the backlash from this doesn't wreck their credibility for decades.

Sike.

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Quote from: Sigmatic on November 20, 2010, 07:15:24 PM
Well, they were the people who said NOT to use a condom in the first place.  They had huge campaigns in Africa.

Gosh, I hope the backlash from this doesn't wreck their credibility for decades.

Sike.

Yes, I know, and it doesn't change my opinion that the Catholic Church is evil. NWC asked for thoughts. That was mine.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Jasper

The earth itself could open up underneath Vatican City and it wouldn't change the fact that Catholicism is evil.

Sister Fracture

It might actually support the idea that the Church is evil.
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Quote from: Sister Fracture on November 20, 2010, 07:48:22 PM
It might actually support the idea that the Church is evil.
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I'm pleased that they've approved this. Though I suspect it has more to do with wanting living followers rather than none because they've all died of AIDS.
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Quote from: Sigmatic on November 20, 2010, 07:15:24 PM
Well, they were the people who said NOT to use a condom in the first place.  They had huge campaigns in Africa.

Gosh, I hope the backlash from this doesn't wreck their credibility for decades.

Sike.

Did they really campaign against condom use in Africa?


Were there, like, posters, or  :?
Formerly something else...

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Quote from: NWC on November 20, 2010, 06:43:33 PMThis does make the Church look slightly less douchy though, which [very] slightly lessens the justification of my contempt for it. I don't feel any differently, but that was always a great line to throw out when discussing/arguing about organized vs disorganized religion with my girlfriend, which happens often enough.

Thoughts?

It's not theoretically possible for the catholic church to look less douchy in my eyes. Especially when they turn around and say "Yeah, well, y'know that shit god said about if you put a bit of rubber on your cock you'll burn in hell for all eternity? Well god was wrong and he's changed his mind"

I seem to recollect god changing his mind on a few occasions. Women priests anyone? Catholic god sounds like a bit of a dithering cunt, constantly making u-turns based on public opinion. Fuck him - he's beneath my contempt.  :lulz:

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Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on November 20, 2010, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: NWC on November 20, 2010, 06:43:33 PMThis does make the Church look slightly less douchy though, which [very] slightly lessens the justification of my contempt for it. I don't feel any differently, but that was always a great line to throw out when discussing/arguing about organized vs disorganized religion with my girlfriend, which happens often enough.

Thoughts?

It's not theoretically possible for the catholic church to look less douchy in my eyes. Especially when they turn around and say "Yeah, well, y'know that shit god said about if you put a bit of rubber on your cock you'll burn in hell for all eternity? Well god was wrong and he's changed his mind"

I seem to recollect god changing his mind on a few occasions. Women priests anyone? Catholic god sounds like a bit of a dithering cunt, constantly making u-turns based on public opinion. Fuck him - he's beneath my contempt.  :lulz:

What do you mean women priests? Roman Catholics do not allow female priests. Episcopalians, Liberal Catholics, and a few others do, but the Vatican does not reflect their views.

To the OP: 'Bout time they realized they were doing more harm than good, but of course, they still don't recognize that preventing unwanted pregnancy is another area in which the use of condoms serves the greater good.  :roll:

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Quote from: Phox on November 20, 2010, 10:08:41 PM

What do you mean women priests? Roman Catholics do not allow female priests. Episcopalians, Liberal Catholics, and a few others do, but the Vatican does not reflect their views.

I stand corrected. Yet another reason to hate them. See how that works? Damned if they do, damned if they dont  :evil:

I'm sure I remember some fucking faithfools letting women lead their god-grovelling, tho. Must have been the anglicans or some shit. I lose track. There's way to many flavours of retarded going on with that religion for me to keep up.

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they didnt say condoms are accepted now they said: i GUESS if you are a homosexual prostitute you might want to use condoms to not get aids until you cure your gay and get in a proper relationship THEN TOTALLY NO CONDOMS OKAY.

NWC

Quote from: Nigel on November 20, 2010, 06:50:29 PM
It has potentially huge ramifications in slowing the spread of HIV in underdeveloped countries.

Do you think so? I'm not so convinced. I know that many underdeveloped countries have already been worked over by missionaries a hundred or 2 years ago, but I'm not so sure they're Catholic, I feel like they're more protestant, though that's just a thought. I don't feel like the pope's change of opinion is going to do anything for the spread of HIV.

Where it will have an affect is in the church's PR. Either people will see it as positive, as they went from stubborn to even more hypocritical, but at least they recognize something, or people will see it as them just being more and more hypocritical.

Either way Catholicism is just a large cardboard box of shit.
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