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Started by Prince Glittersnatch III, November 22, 2010, 09:04:16 PM

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If any of those assholes has any semblance of mercy, theyll give him the death penalty.
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Quote from: Joh'Nyx on March 03, 2011, 06:44:31 PM

If any of those assholes has any semblance of mercy, theyll give him the death penalty.
I read this without seeing this last post on the previous page and thought you were referring to Assange on the rape charges. I thought that might be a little bit extreme.
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Quote from: Vartox on March 04, 2011, 03:01:23 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on March 03, 2011, 06:44:31 PM

If any of those assholes has any semblance of mercy, theyll give him the death penalty.
I read this without seeing this last post on the previous page and thought you were referring to Assange on the rape charges. I thought that might be a little bit extreme.

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According to Private Eye magazine, Julian Assange alleged there was a "Jewish conspiracy" against him in private conversation with their editor.  Assange has denied doing so.

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The thing is, this could mean either one of two things:

Either the Usgov is stating explicitly that Wikileaks is an enemy organization of the United States, on a par with Al-Qaeda and the Disney Breakfast Club,

OR

Usgov is charging that Manning's leaks indirectly aided "the enemy" (Al-Qaeda and the Monkees) through leaking the material to a third party news organization who then published the material...an argument which could be made for any leak done by anyone to any US news organization.

Given Obama's war on whistblowers, I'm going to go with the second.  Which means, should a case be successful, all whistleblowing on national security issues would technically be considered treason and so carry the death penalty.

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Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2011, 07:51:23 AM
The thing is, this could mean either one of two things:

Either the Usgov is stating explicitly that Wikileaks is an enemy organization of the United States, on a par with Al-Qaeda and the Disney Breakfast Club,

OR

Usgov is charging that Manning's leaks indirectly aided "the enemy" (Al-Qaeda and the Monkees) through leaking the material to a third party news organization who then published the material...an argument which could be made for any leak done by anyone to any US news organization.

Given Obama's war on whistblowers, I'm going to go with the second.  Which means, should a case be successful, all whistleblowing on national security issues would technically be considered treason and so carry the death penalty.

If that's the case the 1st Amendment is deader than Thomas Jefferson.

Triple Zero

Quote from: Charley Brown on March 03, 2011, 03:43:41 PM
The U.S. Army Wednesday notified Pfc. Bradley Manning, a prime suspect in the WikiLeaks case, that he now faces 22 more charges in connection with allegedly downloading secret information from computers in Iraq.

The most serious new charge alleges that he aided the enemy by making this information public. That charge is punishable by death. A news release from the Army said the prosecution team "has notified the defense that the prosecution will not recommend the death penalty," but technically it is up to the commander overseeing the case to make the final decision about the death penalty.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/03/02/wikileaks.suspect/index.html?hpt=T2

This guy will never be free for the rest of his life.

So it turns out that leaking diplomatic cables in fact did put some soldier's life in danger.
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Quote from: Triple Zero on March 05, 2011, 04:18:48 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on March 03, 2011, 03:43:41 PM
The U.S. Army Wednesday notified Pfc. Bradley Manning, a prime suspect in the WikiLeaks case, that he now faces 22 more charges in connection with allegedly downloading secret information from computers in Iraq.

The most serious new charge alleges that he aided the enemy by making this information public. That charge is punishable by death. A news release from the Army said the prosecution team "has notified the defense that the prosecution will not recommend the death penalty," but technically it is up to the commander overseeing the case to make the final decision about the death penalty.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/03/02/wikileaks.suspect/index.html?hpt=T2

This guy will never be free for the rest of his life.

So it turns out that leaking diplomatic cables in fact did put some soldier's life in danger.

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Quote from: Triple Zero on March 05, 2011, 04:18:48 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on March 03, 2011, 03:43:41 PM
The U.S. Army Wednesday notified Pfc. Bradley Manning, a prime suspect in the WikiLeaks case, that he now faces 22 more charges in connection with allegedly downloading secret information from computers in Iraq.

The most serious new charge alleges that he aided the enemy by making this information public. That charge is punishable by death. A news release from the Army said the prosecution team "has notified the defense that the prosecution will not recommend the death penalty," but technically it is up to the commander overseeing the case to make the final decision about the death penalty.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/03/02/wikileaks.suspect/index.html?hpt=T2

This guy will never be free for the rest of his life.

So it turns out that leaking diplomatic cables in fact did put some soldier's life in danger.

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Triple Zero

Btw it wouldn't have surprised me too much, if the leaks would have endangered other soldiers' lives, as I don't know exactly what kind of precautions he took for responsible disclosure. I don't know what kind of risk he took. But the fact is that a few months ago,in a Guardian or BBC article I read about a Pentagon report stating they had not been able to find any evidence of soldiers' lives being put in danger "that would otherwise not have been in danger". And I'm 169% sure that if they'd have found anything more between now and then, it'd have been plastered all over the media. (Instead of just the usual screaming heads shouting unsourced bullcrap)
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Alleged 'WikiLeaker' Bradley Manning sent to less restrictive prison

Under pressure from human rights groups, the Defense Department moved Bradley Manning, charged with giving classified documents to WikiLeaks, to the Fort Leavenworth military prison in Kansas.
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Quote from: Triple Zero on April 22, 2011, 08:15:29 PM
Alleged 'WikiLeaker' Bradley Manning sent to less restrictive prison

Under pressure from human rights groups, the Defense Department moved Bradley Manning, charged with giving classified documents to WikiLeaks, to the Fort Leavenworth military prison in Kansas.

Yay!  Maybe they'll give him a blanket and a shower while they're at it.
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