THE GREAT BOOK SLAUGHTER

[Phox]

If we are going with LMNO's conception that this is books that influenced our view of Discordia, I will second all of those, except the ones I haven't read. Hell, i'll second those too.

[hooplala]

As someone who is not American, this may be a silly question, but does the US Constitution generally include the Amendments?

[Phox]

As someone who is not American, this may be a silly question, but does the US Constitution generally include the Amendments?

Yes.

[hooplala]

As someone who is not American, this may be a silly question, but does the US Constitution generally include the Amendments?

Yes.

Ok.

[Phox]

As someone who is not American, this may be a silly question, but does the US Constitution generally include the Amendments?

Yes.

Ok.

If it didn't, I wouldn't have seconded it, anyway. 

[LMNO]

Hoops: Yes.

Phox: Thanks.  I don't know if that's where we're going with this, though.

Placid: My defense--

HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS THAT ARE BOTH MISUNDERSTOOD AND DISPROPORTIONATLY AFFECT SOCIETY:
The Constitution Of the United States
The Koran (Translation of;)
The Bible.

BOOKS THAT DESCRIBE HUMAN BEHAVIOR:
Common Sense - Thomas Payne
The Art of War - Sun Tzu
Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail- HST
Where the Wild Things Are - Maurice Sendak
American Gods - Neil Gaiman

MINDFUCKS:
Foucalt's Pendulum - Umberto Eco
Steppenwolf - Herman Hesse
The Illuminatus! Trilogy, R. A. Wilson
American Psycho - Bret Easton Ellis

CAUTIONARY TALES:
Farenheight 451 - Ray Bradbury
V for Vendetta - Alan Moore
Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand
If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans - Ann Coulter

[BadBeast]

Earth Will Shake was good, and Widow's Son was the best.  Nature's God was dreck, and for me disqualifies the trilogy from the list.

I'll agree that Nature's God was utter pants, but the Widow's Son can just about stand up on it's own as a Novel.
But I see your point. Nature's God disqualifies the trilogy, by it's rubbishness. 

[Eater of Clowns]

I think I recommended The Road by Cormac McCarthy in the suggestion thread.  If we're looking for something that describes human behavior, I know of very few equals for how far we'd fall in an apocalyptic setting.

[BadBeast]

As someone who is not American, this may be a silly question, but does the US Constitution generally include the Amendments?

Yes.

Then surely, as a "work in progress" it should be dismissed, as unfinished?

[Rumckle]

Well, I really liked American Gods, but I also don't like have doubles of the same author on lists like this, and I haven't read Sandman, so I can't really compare the two.

[Kurt Christ]

Well, I really liked American Gods, but I also don't like have doubles of the same author on lists like this, and I haven't read Sandman, so I can't really compare the two.

I would definitely agree with whomever said earlier in the thread that the Sandman is the better piece of his work.

[BadBeast]

Well, I really liked American Gods, but I also don't like have doubles of the same author on lists like this, and I haven't read Sandman, so I can't really compare the two.

American Gods, is a really good read, but Gaiman's forte, is the Graphic novel. And Sandman is staggeringly good. Awesome work, from a Master storyteller. I'd pick Sandman over many of the other books in the list. I think it was the first Graphic Novel, that you could really rate as proper Literature.  The whole original 75 issues have been put into GN format, 10 Volumes, and every one, a winner.

[Faust]

Well, I really liked American Gods, but I also don't like have doubles of the same author on lists like this, and I haven't read Sandman, so I can't really compare the two.

I would definitely agree with whomever said earlier in the thread that the Sandman is the better piece of his work.

That would be me. His short stories (possibly Smoke and Mirrors) are incredibly good but for AG I found the suspension of disbelief being shattered constantly, he was almost apologetic about having to describe anything supernatural, which is weird because the confidence was certainly in the sandman.

[Placid Dingo]

OK we keep LMNOs, (except Constitution for now) but I have issue with at least one in each catorgory.

Constitution; too American centred (I think I can lean on BadBeast to consider this one ditched)
Farenheight 451 wasn't well written enough to really do the ideas justice, and other dystopias have done the same kind of thing better.
American Psycho goes after a certain effect, of making the violence blend in with the rest of the band waffle etc... and doesn't do it well enough to succeed.

Common Sense; I keep thinking that this is actually called 'The American Crisis', and was written by PAyne under the name 'Common Sense'. If this is so, I really don't see how this is much good, becasue it basically repeats one sentiment thirteen times.

K, We'll hold the road for now as it's 50/50.

[Juana]

Books LMNO proposed keeping that have already been struck off;
Farenheight 451 - Ray Bradbury.
American Gods - Neil Gaiman

I second keeping these.