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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2010, 01:40:13 pm »
Bill of rights still doesn't apply to military personal

You're an idiot.  The Bill of Rights specifically mentions military personnel. 
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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2010, 01:41:24 pm »
Torture laws do.

Not until the supreme court says they do

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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2010, 04:13:51 pm »
Well, now we know why they're torturing him.

http://slatest.slate.com/id/2278213/entry/1/

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U.S. federal prosecutors are investigating whether WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange worked with Army intelligence analyst Bradley Manning to steal classified documents from the government, reports the New York Times. The discovery of such evidence would mean he could be tried as a conspirator in the leak.

Basically, if Manning testifies that Assange "assisted him" in the actual leak, then the government can go after Assange for that, rather than for publishing them.  It gets around the First Amendment arguments.

Give the kid a few more months of solitary to soften him up, and he'll say anything they want him to.

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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2010, 04:16:08 pm »
Well, now we know why they're torturing him.

http://slatest.slate.com/id/2278213/entry/1/

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U.S. federal prosecutors are investigating whether WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange worked with Army intelligence analyst Bradley Manning to steal classified documents from the government, reports the New York Times. The discovery of such evidence would mean he could be tried as a conspirator in the leak.

Basically, if Manning testifies that Assange "assisted him" in the actual leak, then the government can go after Assange for that, rather than for publishing them.  It gets around the First Amendment arguments.

Give the kid a few more months of solitary to soften him up, and he'll say anything they want him to.

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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2010, 04:27:53 pm »
Well, now we know why they're torturing him.

http://slatest.slate.com/id/2278213/entry/1/

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U.S. federal prosecutors are investigating whether WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange worked with Army intelligence analyst Bradley Manning to steal classified documents from the government, reports the New York Times. The discovery of such evidence would mean he could be tried as a conspirator in the leak.

Basically, if Manning testifies that Assange "assisted him" in the actual leak, then the government can go after Assange for that, rather than for publishing them.  It gets around the First Amendment arguments.

Give the kid a few more months of solitary to soften him up, and he'll say anything they want him to.

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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2010, 04:29:39 pm »

This is why everyone owes a kick in the nuts to the writers of "24".

THERES ONE HOUR IN THE BOMB TIMER/WE NEED TO FIND THE "CONSPIRATORS" - QUICK TORTURE HIM.
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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2010, 04:37:02 pm »
Well, now we know why they're torturing him.

http://slatest.slate.com/id/2278213/entry/1/

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U.S. federal prosecutors are investigating whether WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange worked with Army intelligence analyst Bradley Manning to steal classified documents from the government, reports the New York Times. The discovery of such evidence would mean he could be tried as a conspirator in the leak.

Basically, if Manning testifies that Assange "assisted him" in the actual leak, then the government can go after Assange for that, rather than for publishing them.  It gets around the First Amendment arguments.

Give the kid a few more months of solitary to soften him up, and he'll say anything they want him to.

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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2010, 05:53:01 am »
Hey I'm not the one who said national security trumps Judicial  oversight
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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2010, 03:01:11 pm »
According to David House, a computer researcher from Boston who visits Manning twice a month, he is starting to deteriorate. "Over the last few weeks I have noticed a steady decline in his mental and physical wellbeing," he said. "His prolonged confinement in a solitary holding cell is unquestionably taking its toll on his intellect; his inability to exercise due to [prison] regulations has affected his physical appearance in a manner that suggests physical weakness."
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On 3 November, House, 23, said he found customs agents waiting for him when he and his girlfriend returned to the US after a short holiday in Mexico. His bags were searched and two men identifying themselves as Homeland Security officials said they were being detained for questioning and would miss their connecting flight. The men seized all his electronic items and he was told to hand over all passwords and encryption keys – which he refused. The items have yet to be returned, said House. He added: "If Manning is convicted, it will be because his individual dedication to human ethics far surpasses that of the US government."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/16/bradley-manning-health-deteriorating


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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2010, 03:29:31 pm »
According to David House, a computer researcher from Boston who visits Manning twice a month, he is starting to deteriorate. "Over the last few weeks I have noticed a steady decline in his mental and physical wellbeing," he said. "His prolonged confinement in a solitary holding cell is unquestionably taking its toll on his intellect; his inability to exercise due to [prison] regulations has affected his physical appearance in a manner that suggests physical weakness."
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On 3 November, House, 23, said he found customs agents waiting for him when he and his girlfriend returned to the US after a short holiday in Mexico. His bags were searched and two men identifying themselves as Homeland Security officials said they were being detained for questioning and would miss their connecting flight. The men seized all his electronic items and he was told to hand over all passwords and encryption keys – which he refused. The items have yet to be returned, said House. He added: "If Manning is convicted, it will be because his individual dedication to human ethics far surpasses that of the US government."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/16/bradley-manning-health-deteriorating


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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2010, 05:20:00 pm »
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Re: Solitary detention = torture?
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2010, 05:30:20 pm »
Hey, if it ain't broke then don't fix it. That method has always worked.