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Italy to ban plastic bags

Started by Adios, January 01, 2011, 05:25:40 PM

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Triple Zero

I had coffee in a styrofoam cup once, while they are probably excellent at keeping warmth inside the cup, and not burning your fingers, I dunno it's something, the texture of styrofoam, or maybe a tiny bit of the smell, gimme smooth plastic any time.

Actually I don't really like paper cups because of that reason either, although less so.

What's worst are those thin wooden stirring sticks, made from the same kind of wood as ice pop sticks and pencils ... horrible flavour. stir the sugar quickly, and then dispose as quick as possible.
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We have some of those lidded permanent cups that are made from corn. Very plastic like in texture, but biodegradable.

I for one am glad that steps are being taken to stop the use of these products and cleaning up the view at the same time.

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yeah those types of containers are getting very popular over here in teh Silicon Valley too.  My new HP laptop was packed in with those paper mulch inserts instead of Styrofoam as well.  It sorta looks like those plant pots that you bury with the plant so they decompose and feed the plant. 
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Quote from: Triple Zero on January 02, 2011, 02:03:31 PM
I had coffee in a styrofoam cup once, while they are probably excellent at keeping warmth inside the cup, and not burning your fingers, I dunno it's something, the texture of styrofoam, or maybe a tiny bit of the smell, gimme smooth plastic any time.

Actually I don't really like paper cups because of that reason either, although less so.

What's worst are those thin wooden stirring sticks, made from the same kind of wood as ice pop sticks and pencils ... horrible flavour. stir the sugar quickly, and then dispose as quick as possible.

I used to eat pencils... Those metal eraser bits do a number on fillings... YECH.

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I normally use the paper cups or plastic bottles, which I don't mind. Styrofoam is only used when I'm eating at some cheap mom and pop place, and have never noticed the taste you described, Trip. But I tend to drink very strongly flavored things, so that might be why.
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Quote from: Charley Brown on January 01, 2011, 06:01:55 PM
The entire concept just surprised me I guess. I am still not sure how I feel about it. Why not styrofoam as well?

Most types of styrofoam food packaging were banned in Oregon nearly 30 years ago.
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Quote from: Triple Zero on January 01, 2011, 08:50:05 PM
"it's entirely possible" ?? What does that even mean, either it is, or it isn't, but if you actually don't know, then it just clouds the discussion.

BTW it's also entirely possible that every three out of five salmons have a much, much worse effect on the environment than styrofoam, plastic bags and mayonaise, combined.

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Quote from: Charley Brown on January 01, 2011, 09:06:59 PM
Another thing...PLASTIC DISPOSABLE WATER BOTTLES ALL OVER THE SIDE OF THE FUCKING ROAD!  :argh!:

Disposable water bottles drive me crazy. They're hideous, and on top of that the water here is some of the best in the world, AND AND AND some oldspag named Benson set up an enormous trust to pay for free drinking fountains all over the city.

There's just no fucking excuse for that plastic disposable shit. A fucking stainless steel water bottle can be had for $12 in any grocery store around here.
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OH OH OH btw, HAVENT YOU SEEN the new kinds of water bottles that are scrunchable and biodegradable?????

Or is that just a crazy local idea someone came up in my country?????
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Quote from: Joh'Nyx on January 03, 2011, 03:42:38 AM

OH OH OH btw, HAVENT YOU SEEN the new kinds of water bottles that are scrunchable and biodegradable?????

Or is that just a crazy local idea someone came up in my country?????

We have "biodegradable" ones here now, but it's still a small percentage and they're still stupid.
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Quote from: Joh'Nyx on January 01, 2011, 06:04:44 PM

Just a retarded "green" fad, like banning smoking in bars, ffs.

Uh, no, banning smoking isn't about being green it is about addressing a public health issue. 
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Quote from: Triple Zero on January 02, 2011, 11:43:28 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on January 01, 2011, 10:57:25 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 01, 2011, 06:01:55 PM
The entire concept just surprised me I guess. I am still not sure how I feel about it. Why not styrofoam as well?
Oakland, California has banned it. Which I totally support and wish my city would as well, because they're ugly and bad for the environment. Our streets are pretty much litter free (because the city cleans all that shit up weekly), but what litter we do have tends to be styrofoam cups.

That's one thing btw, styrofoam cups are really rare over here. Most disposable cups are either cardboard/paper or non-foam polystyrene. Still people tend to throw them in waste-baskets.

If those paper cups have a layer of wax on them then they belong in the waste basket because they're not recyclable.
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Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 03, 2011, 01:20:34 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on January 01, 2011, 06:04:44 PM

Just a retarded "green" fad, like banning smoking in bars, ffs.

Uh, no, banning smoking isn't about being green it is about addressing a public health issue. 

Dont you think its a bit tripe compared to other more important things, like idk, reducing carbon emissions with a "no-driving" day calendar?

I mean, all in relation to health.
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AFK

Considering the impact of second hand smoke on health, no, I don't think it's "a bit tripe".  In fact, I think the impact of constant exposure to second hand smoke is going to have more acute impacts on a person's health compared to the impact of carbon emissions. 

But of course, it would be completely asinine to suggest we can't address both. 
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