BREAKING: MAN CHANGES GLASS OF WATER INTO AN OAK TREE!

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Phox is Toots? 

No.

Okay, was confused there for a minute. 

Wha? Did I miss something?

Toots was a previous user, who was a bit of a shit.  From the great 2004/2005 Civil War.

I referred to you as "toots" a few posts up, then thought better of it and deleted that word.  RWHN is just fast on the draw, too fast for me.  It was dumb, pay no attention, these aren't the droids you're looking for.

Wait.  Now *I'M* Toots?  

IIRC, Toots was Diabo, which was funny, but she was also good pals with Hugh and Eldora, and spent more than a bit of time fucking with me.  Not worth the funny, IMO.

[Triple Zero]

It's a troll.  Pretty effective one, too.

Poe's Law, ITT.

It looks like half the shit written on any given Pagan board.

I'm kinda torn, if I look at it from the angle of satire/parody, I think it's great, and the Q/A interview does a really good job of it. [could be a parody to Catholic transubstantiation, or just the whole concept as discussed ITT].

But you made me look again, trying to see if I could find any hints that would clearly show it's satire, but I couldn't find any. That makes me think. It could still be satire, but if it isn't, well it's still not the same as the shit written on a Pagan board IMO. Considering the interview, the artist seems to have a really solid grasp on the subject matter, he picked his words really carefully and hedged his statements quite well. A pagan would have slipped up and put some slight hint of supernatural in there. The artist obviously doesn't have any supernatural beliefs about the piece, so in that case he's trying to make a point about the philosophy involved in this subject. Well, then there's two roads, either he's making fun of such philosophy by showcasing something that is obviously quite ridiculous, OR he actually believes that and this is the way he chooses to look at the world*, and in that case he's more like a pompous prick, knowing fully well that nobody can ever disprove what he claims, similar to someone prancing around with the "solipsism argument", kind of reminds me of that butthurt smelly old fart from MLA, thinking he is all clever and shit cause he can bend words.

Well, if it's satire, I think it's hilarious.

If it's not satire, he's probably a pompous prick, I still think it's hilarious. [against the artists intentions]


(*is that gnosticism, then? I never quite got what gnosticism actually is. Cram?)

[The Good Reverend Roger]

What was this thread about?

It was about how words don't mean anything.

Now it's about Toots, a POS from yesteryear.

[hooplala]

Phox is Toots? 

No.

Okay, was confused there for a minute. 

Wha? Did I miss something?

Toots was a previous user, who was a bit of a shit.  From the great 2004/2005 Civil War.

I referred to you as "toots" a few posts up, then thought better of it and deleted that word.  RWHN is just fast on the draw, too fast for me.  It was dumb, pay no attention, these aren't the droids you're looking for.

Wait.  Now *I'M* Toots?  

IIRC, Toots was Diabo, which was funny, but she was also good pals with Hugh and Eldora, and spent more than a bit of time fucking with me.  Not worth the funny, IMO.

Sorry, I meant to address that to Phox.

DIABO!!!!   

[AFK]

What was this thread about?

Two Birches One Cup

[LMNO]

What was this thread about?

It was about how words don't mean anything.

Apple apple farthing stamp?

[Cramulus]

If words don't actually represent the things they're supposed to represent, then communication is impossible, and we should all go drown ourselves in patchouli.

so the map (language) is always an accurate representation of the territory (experience)?

communication isn't impossible, but it sure is difficult! We live in the information age, where words and their connotations are powerful weapons.

Terrorist,
socialist,
freedom,
homeland security,
patriot act,
purity,
drugs,
fairness,
equality...

people get really confused by these words. If you're not aware of these manipulations of connotation, you are easier to control.

Marcel Duchamp's "this is not a pipe" piece succinctly draws our attention to that.





I know this is all old hat to many of us, and I apologize for being interested in thinking about it if this is boring tripe to you cats

[The Good Reverend Roger]

and in that case he's more like a pompous prick, knowing fully well that nobody can ever disprove what he claims,

Which is different from Pagans (especially "conservopagans" )...HOW?

similar to someone prancing around with the "solipsism argument", kind of reminds me of that butthurt smelly old fart from MLA, thinking he is all clever and shit cause he can bend words.

This.

[hooplala]

Apple apple farthing stamp?

I have changed your sentence into the following sentence:  FRANK ZAPPA IS A MUSICAL GENIUS AND I LOVES HIM DEARLY.

While you will notice that your original words have not changed, the entire content is now different.  You're welcome.

[Phox]

@Hoops: I don't have always much more to say than "that's ridiculous", so I don't necessarily put the effort into typing it. That doesn't mean I don't read and respond to the content.

ETA: Wow epic quote fail, somehow.

[Cramulus]

Apple apple farthing stamp?

I have changed your sentence into the following sentence:  FRANK ZAPPA IS A MUSICAL GENIUS AND I LOVES HIM DEARLY.

While you will notice that your original words have not changed, the entire content is now different.  You're welcome.

bravo

[LMNO]

Marcel Duchamp's "this is not a pipe" piece succinctly draws our attention to that.

Heh.  That's one for the "Misattributed Quotes" thread.  Extra funny because the image url has "Magritte" in it.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

So the map (language) is always an accurate representation of the territory (experience)?

When used properly, yes.  Or so close to always as to not make any difference.

communication isn't impossible, but it sure is difficult! We live in the information age, where words and their connotations are powerful weapons.

Terrorist,
socialist,
freedom,
homeland security,
patriot act,
purity,
drugs,
fairness,
equality...

people get really confused by these words. If you're not aware of these manipulations of connotation, you are easier to control.

Or they could just use a dictionary.  People who are too stupid to learn the definitions of the words they repeat deserve everything they get, good and hard.  Fact is, it's the demagogues that misuse these words in the same manner - basically speaking - as the OP that have caused half of these problems.  Deciding that words don't actually mean anything furthers their cause.

[hooplala]

@Phox:

Um, ok.  Carry on then.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

What was this thread about?

It was about how words don't mean anything.

Apple apple farthing stamp?

Quit channeling Hugh and Trollax.