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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, January 10, 2011, 09:34:56 PM

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hooplala

I'm unsure exactly how I feel about this at the moment.  I am going to reflect for a few hours and come back to respond.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Eater of Clowns

Quote from: Hoopla on January 27, 2011, 10:11:02 PM
I'm unsure exactly how I feel about this at the moment.  I am going to reflect for a few hours and come back to respond.

Santa Claus doesn't exist, Hoopla, but we're still getting presents:D
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EoC, you are the bane of my existence.

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EoC doesn't make creepy.

EoC makes creepy worse.

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hooplala

Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 27, 2011, 10:16:27 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 27, 2011, 10:11:02 PM
I'm unsure exactly how I feel about this at the moment.  I am going to reflect for a few hours and come back to respond.

Santa Claus doesn't exist, Hoopla, but we're still getting presents:D

Yeah thats the way I'm leaning, but its hard to think about anything seriously at my place of work, especially with Janelle Monae playing.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

LMNO

As a complete threadjack, I had the same reaction to Janelle Monae's album that I did to Black Swan.

She was supposed to be a complete nutball, like a female James Brown on LSD who treats her band like a cult.  And then the music is like a weaker Andre 3000 or K-os, and her voice is average.

I was expecting a funk soul Lady Gaga futurist, and I got pop music. Disappointing.

AFK

Ultimately, I think it would have had a bit more punch, though still short-lived, if no one had ever fessed up to it.  Or perhaps it would've been one of those lingering, low-level urban legend things.  Kind of like the "Poe Toaster". 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

hooplala

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 28, 2011, 01:07:50 PM
As a complete threadjack, I had the same reaction to Janelle Monae's album that I did to Black Swan.

She was supposed to be a complete nutball, like a female James Brown on LSD who treats her band like a cult.  And then the music is like a weaker Andre 3000 or K-os, and her voice is average.

I was expecting a funk soul Lady Gaga futurist, and I got pop music. Disappointing.

Sounds like you suffer from a case of high expectations.  I heard Dance or Die without even knowing who it was... I love it.  Tightrope is pretty good too.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

hooplala

EoC, I thought about it last night, and I suppose what it comes down to is that I never thought of it as art, just a fun little mystery.  Once the mystery was solved, and the solution was so blasé, it just sort of fell apart.

As art, I like the incongruence of the images of the piano and the water, but it's... mild.  It doesn't have the kick I like in art.  The fact that it was a rich kid doesn't bother me in the least.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

LMNO

Hoops, I think it's because I've been pleasantly surprised by a lot of new bands/albums recently, such as:

Robyn
The National
The Walkmen
Warpaint
The xx
Grinderman
Aloe Blacc


P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Hoopla on January 28, 2011, 02:30:02 PM
EoC, I thought about it last night, and I suppose what it comes down to is that I never thought of it as art, just a fun little mystery.  Once the mystery was solved, and the solution was so blasé, it just sort of fell apart.

As art, I like the incongruence of the images of the piano and the water, but it's... mild.  It doesn't have the kick I like in art.  The fact that it was a rich kid doesn't bother me in the least.

Art and beauty - both in the eye of the beholder. It shouldn't matter who did it but I think most of us probably fall into that trap somewhere along the line. Now and again some really twee, bullshit act will release a good song and I find myself hating it, deliberately, because it's a really pish act who did it. With Painty or scupty kind of art I tend to be a bit better at looking without prejudice, since I have no idea who the fuck artists are. So when I see a picture or sculpture I just soak it in and if I like it I like it. On one hand I'm closing myself off to a whole bunch of other, similar, cool shit that the artist or movement has produced but I find there's plenty awesome stuff out there for me to look at. I never go short. I mean, hell, I don't even differentiate between man made and naturally occurring art. I see an awesome photo and an awesome looking tree the same way - I just look at it and I feel something. That's art for me - more a reaction I have to stimuli than something somebody necessarily does.

So back to the piano - If I'd stumbled across it on my travels it'd have been at such and such a time of day, with such and such a level and angle of light hitting it. That'd have been the deciding factor - would have made it look beautiful or like an abandoned piece of trash. Who did it and the motive behind it is not important. I'd have filled those details in myself and then later, when I find out who actually did it? Makes no difference. The art happened when I was looking at it, that moment is gone now, so what?

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hooplala

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 28, 2011, 02:30:35 PM
Hoops, I think it's because I've been pleasantly surprised by a lot of new bands/albums recently, such as:

Robyn
The National
The Walkmen
Warpaint
The xx
Grinderman
Aloe Blacc




Ah, quality overload... that's preferable.  The only one I am familiar with from that list is The XX.  It took me a while to warm to them, but I really quite like them now.  For a time the only song I could stand of theirs was VCR, but I have since opened up.

To be honest, I don't know a lot of Janelle, only 3 or 4 songs, but I like them.

I tend not to pay a lot of attention to modern music, but my wife does, I absorb it through her.  Yes yes, :lmnuendo:
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

hooplala

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on January 28, 2011, 05:12:33 PMI mean, hell, I don't even differentiate between man made and naturally occurring art. I see an awesome photo and an awesome looking tree the same way - I just look at it and I feel something.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

The Good Reverend Roger

Well, I've decided, "enough is enough", and I'm building an art detector.

TGRR,
Protecting mankind from poker-playing dogs.
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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

Quote from: Hoopla on January 28, 2011, 05:34:05 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on January 28, 2011, 05:12:33 PMI mean, hell, I don't even differentiate between man made and naturally occurring art. I see an awesome photo and an awesome looking tree the same way - I just look at it and I feel something.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that.

Make that three. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

hooplala

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 28, 2011, 05:36:43 PM
Well, I've decided, "enough is enough", and I'm building an art detector.

TGRR,
Protecting mankind from poker-playing dogs.

I am Hoopla, and I approve of this idea.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

LMNO