HOOPS! EXPLAIN YOURSELF!

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I like that.  It's sculpture (?) that is pleasing to the eye.

Contrast it with this crap:

[Triple Zero]

(relevant + love this story)

ERIC: I use my sword to detect whether it's good.

ED: It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo!

ERIC: (Pause) I call out to it.

ED: It won't answer. It's a gazebo!

ERIC: (Pause) I sheathe my sword and draw my bow and arrows. Does it respond in any way?

ED: No, Eric. It's a gazebo!

ERIC: I shoot it with my bow (rolls to hit). What happened?

ED: There is now a gazebo with an arrow sticking out of it.

ERIC: (Pause) Wasn't it wounded?

ED: Of course not, Eric! It's a gazebo!

ERIC: (Whimper) But that was a plus-three arrow!

ED: It's a gazebo, Eric, a gazebo! If you really want to try to destroy it, you could try to chop it wih an axe, I suppose, or you could try to burn it, but I don't know why anybody would even try. It's a @#%$*& gazebo!

ERIC: (Long pause - he has no axe or fire spells) I run away.

ED: (Thoroughly frustrated) It's too late. You've awakened the gazebo, and it catches you and eats you. ERIC: (Reaching for his dice) Maybe I'll roll up a fire-using mage so I can avenge my paladin...

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Kai, I don't think Andy Goldsworthy is modern (Modern Art refers to a specific period, "Contemporary Art" is what is occurring right now).

So, Roger, what is that "crap"? Who made it? What was it titled? And most importantly, by what criteria are you judging it as crap?

ETA: I also think it's naive to regard only "pretty" things as art with value.

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Sorry, I mean "contemporary art". It'll be funny in about 20 years when the pretentious artfag establishment has to come up for another word for "now".

I know, I know...

[MMIX]

I just want to put in a good word for Yoko Ono. Back in 1966, which I think just squeaks this work into the Modern period if not the Modern style she produced the Blue Room Event.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yokoonoofficial/2891958083/in/set-72157607534446622/#/

Looks like even old Yoko is a good, right thinking discordian, she was Gasming before Cram was even born . . .

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Kai, I don't think Andy Goldsworthy is modern (Modern Art refers to a specific period, "Contemporary Art" is what is occurring right now).

So, Roger, what is that "crap"? Who made it? What was it titled? And most importantly, by what criteria are you judging it as crap?

ETA: I also think it's naive to regard only "pretty" things as art with value.

Guernica isn't pretty, and it's art.  Stop fucking putting words in my Goddamn mouth.  Thanks.

[Kai]

I like that.  It's sculpture (?) that is pleasing to the eye.

Contrast it with this crap:

Yeah, it's sculpture usually, though I've seen it done in ways that makes it almost like a painting. Glad you like it.

As for the other thing, I don't know what to make of it. It looks like a bus stop.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I like that.  It's sculpture (?) that is pleasing to the eye.

Contrast it with this crap:

Yeah, it's sculpture usually, though I've seen it done in ways that makes it almost like a painting. Glad you like it.

As for the other thing, I don't know what to make of it. It looks like a bus stop.

Or a retarded green house.

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Kai, I don't think Andy Goldsworthy is modern (Modern Art refers to a specific period, "Contemporary Art" is what is occurring right now).

So, Roger, what is that "crap"? Who made it? What was it titled? And most importantly, by what criteria are you judging it as crap?

ETA: I also think it's naive to regard only "pretty" things as art with value.

Guernica isn't pretty, and it's art.  Stop fucking putting words in my Goddamn mouth.  Thanks.

Did I say YOU said that? I was responding in general to anyone who may feel that way.

But I see this thread is more about you lashing out as opposed to discussing ideas, so maybe I'll return to it when it becomes a pun war.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Kai, I don't think Andy Goldsworthy is modern (Modern Art refers to a specific period, "Contemporary Art" is what is occurring right now).

So, Roger, what is that "crap"? Who made it? What was it titled? And most importantly, by what criteria are you judging it as crap?

ETA: I also think it's naive to regard only "pretty" things as art with value.

Guernica isn't pretty, and it's art.  Stop fucking putting words in my Goddamn mouth.  Thanks.

Did I say YOU said that? I was responding in general to anyone who may feel that way.

But I see this thread is more about you lashing out as opposed to discussing ideas, so maybe I'll return to it when it becomes a pun war.

Yeah, and I was only saying "Fuck off" to anyone who might stroll along and put words in my mouth.

Don't piss down my neck and then tell me it's raining.

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Kai, I don't think Andy Goldsworthy is modern (Modern Art refers to a specific period, "Contemporary Art" is what is occurring right now).

So, Roger, what is that "crap"? Who made it? What was it titled? And most importantly, by what criteria are you judging it as crap?

ETA: I also think it's naive to regard only "pretty" things as art with value.

Guernica isn't pretty, and it's art.  Stop fucking putting words in my Goddamn mouth.  Thanks.

Did I say YOU said that? I was responding in general to anyone who may feel that way.

But I see this thread is more about you lashing out as opposed to discussing ideas, so maybe I'll return to it when it becomes a pun war.

Yeah, and I was only saying "Fuck off" to anyone who might stroll along and put words in my mouth.

Don't piss down my neck and then tell me it's raining.

Yes, yes. Everyone is out get you and I put razors in your Cheerios.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Kai, I don't think Andy Goldsworthy is modern (Modern Art refers to a specific period, "Contemporary Art" is what is occurring right now).

So, Roger, what is that "crap"? Who made it? What was it titled? And most importantly, by what criteria are you judging it as crap?

ETA: I also think it's naive to regard only "pretty" things as art with value.

Guernica isn't pretty, and it's art.  Stop fucking putting words in my Goddamn mouth.  Thanks.

Did I say YOU said that? I was responding in general to anyone who may feel that way.

But I see this thread is more about you lashing out as opposed to discussing ideas, so maybe I'll return to it when it becomes a pun war.

Yeah, and I was only saying "Fuck off" to anyone who might stroll along and put words in my mouth.

Don't piss down my neck and then tell me it's raining.

Yes, yes. Everyone is out get you and I put razors in your Cheerios.

Well, that explains the anal bleeding.

However, you may consider addressing such comments to the board in general, instead of in a reply to me, especially since NOBODY HERE SAID THAT ONLY PRETTY THINGS CAN BE CONSIDERED ART.

[Remington]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z86V_ICUCD4?

Concept expanded into this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkgoSOSGrx4&NR=1&feature=fvwp

[Placid Dingo]

I just want to put in a good word for Yoko Ono. Back in 1966, which I think just squeaks this work into the Modern period if not the Modern style she produced the Blue Room Event.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yokoonoofficial/2891958083/in/set-72157607534446622/#/

Looks like even old Yoko is a good, right thinking discordian, she was Gasming before Cram was even born . . .

Yoko made one I love called White Chess:

Also, I found its somehow connected to another artist's series 'spice chess' which is interesting.

Both these works are appealing to be because they use the viewers participation as art of the experience.

[Cain]

I'm rather disappointed no-one looked at the ice city.