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ATTN BORED MIDDLE-CLASS WHITE PEOPLE WHO NEED SOMETHING TO REBEL AGAINST:

Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, January 26, 2011, 08:09:05 PM

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LMNO

#15
January 26, 2011, 08:40:40 PM
Nigel, I know I'm putting my foot in it here, but are you implying that poor black people are incapable of thinking about freedom and inspiring others?

Like, thinking for yourself is some sort of White Privilege?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#16
January 26, 2011, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 26, 2011, 08:40:40 PM
Nigel, I know I'm putting my foot in it here, but are you implying that poor black people are incapable of thinking about freedom and inspiring others?

Like, thinking for yourself is some sort of White Privilege?


I'm sorely disappointed in you for even thinking that way. It's not just a poor attempt at a low blow, but a willful act of stupidity to imply that the luxury of planning a social agenda online is somehow equal to "thinking for yourself". In this context, white is a condition, not a race. I'm here, aren't I? I didn't give myself a special pass. In this context, I'm as bored, white, and middle-class as you are.

Class issues are real, including the reality that being marginalized due to race or income robs many people of the luxury of deciding what's best for other people.


"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#17
January 26, 2011, 08:55:23 PM
What I really love is that the topic of conversation has completely shifted from outrage at an actual heinous act perpetrated on a fellow citizen to personal outrage about being called white.

:lulz:

Priceless. Way to illustrate that position of privilege, everyone! Now get out there and change the world!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

The Good Reverend Roger

#18
January 26, 2011, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 26, 2011, 08:55:23 PM
What I really love is that the topic of conversation has completely shifted from outrage at an actual heinous act perpetrated on a fellow citizen to personal outrage about being called white.

:lulz:

Priceless. Way to illustrate that position of privilege, everyone! Now get out there and change the world!

I haven't forgotten the OP, Nigel, but the thread title was an obvious distraction.

I have an idea or two...unfortunately, neither idea will get this woman out of jail.  Do you have a suggestion?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#19
January 26, 2011, 08:59:56 PM
I once made the mistake, coming from a trust fund background, in supposing that leisure helped clear the space in order to help a person think better.  "If you don't have to always worry about where your next meal is coming from," I thought, "then you can spend your time with deeper thoughts."

Yeah, that's a really stupid way to think, and I was barstooled right proper.  But your attitude right now seems to be that the things we're trying to do, which is set up a way for people to help reach their individual goals and fully realize their philosophies, is reserved for the domain of Middle Class White People.  And even if you include yourself in that label, it still seems to leave that implication hanging, that those who are NOT Middle Class White People are either unable or incapable of doing this.

hooplala

#20
January 26, 2011, 09:00:34 PM
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

The Good Reverend Roger

#21
January 26, 2011, 09:02:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 26, 2011, 08:59:56 PM
 But your attitude right now seems to be that the things we're trying to do, which is set up a way for people to help reach their individual goals and fully realize their philosophies, is reserved for the domain of Middle Class White People.  

I'm not letting that opinion stop me. 
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#22
January 26, 2011, 09:06:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2011, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 26, 2011, 08:55:23 PM
What I really love is that the topic of conversation has completely shifted from outrage at an actual heinous act perpetrated on a fellow citizen to personal outrage about being called white.

:lulz:

Priceless. Way to illustrate that position of privilege, everyone! Now get out there and change the world!

I haven't forgotten the OP, Nigel, but the thread title was an obvious distraction.

I have an idea or two...unfortunately, neither idea will get this woman out of jail.  Do you have a suggestion?

Yeah, actually. About the only leverage we the people have in this situation is to talk about this. About how fucked up it is. About what a piece of shit the judge is. About how wrong it is to criminalize a person for sending their kids to a better school. Enough publicity might actually change this woman's situation.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Cain

#23
January 26, 2011, 09:07:10 PM
QuoteBORED MIDDLE-CLASS WHITE PEOPLE WHO NEED SOMETHING TO REBEL AGAINST

Isn't that just about the most succint description of the Tea Party ever devised?

Captain Utopia

#24
January 26, 2011, 09:13:02 PM
Fuck, I'm a member of the Tea Party now?  How the hell did that happen?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#25
January 26, 2011, 09:13:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 26, 2011, 08:59:56 PM
I once made the mistake, coming from a trust fund background, in supposing that leisure helped clear the space in order to help a person think better.  "If you don't have to always worry about where your next meal is coming from," I thought, "then you can spend your time with deeper thoughts."

Yeah, that's a really stupid way to think, and I was barstooled right proper.  But your attitude right now seems to be that the things we're trying to do, which is set up a way for people to help reach their individual goals and fully realize their philosophies, is reserved for the domain of Middle Class White People.  And even if you include yourself in that label, it still seems to leave that implication hanging, that those who are NOT Middle Class White People are either unable or incapable of doing this.



Wow. Just... wow.

Way to avoid the point and create a red herring.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#26
January 26, 2011, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2011, 09:07:10 PM
QuoteBORED MIDDLE-CLASS WHITE PEOPLE WHO NEED SOMETHING TO REBEL AGAINST

Isn't that just about the most succint description of the Tea Party ever devised?

It pretty thoroughly sums up everyone who has the time and privilege to Decide What's Best for Everyone.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

The Good Reverend Roger

#27
January 26, 2011, 09:14:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Utopia on January 26, 2011, 09:13:02 PM
Fuck, I'm a member of the Tea Party now?  How the hell did that happen?

By blatant manipulation, of course.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#28
January 26, 2011, 09:14:53 PM
ITT: Bored middle-class white people who are offended at being called middle-class white people.  :lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

#29
January 26, 2011, 09:17:12 PM Last Edit: January 26, 2011, 09:27:35 PM by Ratatosk
I call False Dichotomy... just because Bored Middle Class White People may want something to rebel against; it doesn't preclude Bored Lower Class, Bored Upper Class, Interested Middle Class or White/Brown/Green/Purple people from also wanting something to rebel against.

EDIT TO ADD:

Besides, didn't the poor people get all their rebelling out during the past couple centuries? It's our turn now bitches!  :lulz:
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