Prophecies Nobody Wants to Hear, part I of V

[East Coast Hustle]

Fuck that, if I can't be here to kick this fucker in the shins on its way down, I want to make goddamn sure that at least some of my DNA gets that opportunity.

[Jenne]

I can't rob others of the liberties I already took.  I'm just categorically against it.  I have no dominion on them after I have already given the earth 2 humans to cohabitate with.  I try hard not to presuppose *I* of all people know what's best for everyone, and I refuse to allow the same to my progeny as well.

I don't deny this isn't an extreme problem, and I don't deny that we are breeching a point past we can't return in resources, technology and implementataion.  I am bouyed by the fact this is even talked about, however, and being researched, cared about and general knowledge for the taking now that we have the ability to LEARN such knowledge (for whatever good it does for us in the end of things).

I have no trite answers, I have no conclusions.  I just know what I CANNOT and WILL NOT propose, because I know that even if we, the powers that be, shift our concerns onto the backs of an unsuspecting people of the future, that does not guarantee that SOMETHING ELSE equally cancerous and uncontrollable without Herculean and ultimate annihilating effort to quash or control won't materialize as a result.

[Triple Zero]

I thought this was the most poignant and important bit of the entire thread:

There's only one meme worth repeating right now, and that is "Zero Population Growth".

Too bad about all the bickering, and the "I'm gonna stop posting in this thread ... oh, I mean, until you leave the thread" which was not necessary. Cause the discussion about carrying capacity was useful and relevant. Or if not, not worth getting all monkey about.

Anyway, that bit. Zero Population Growth.

Funny cause when I was younger I was all for the Church of Euthanasia and the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement (google). It was in fact PD that made me reconsider what they preached, even if I didn't take it 100% seriously (but still 99%).

[LMNO]

I was an early member in the CoE, oddly enough. I was big into dada at the time, and I thought Kris Korda was hysterical. Then he got waaaaay too serious, and I had to cut loose.

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People that know better are sticking their heads in the sand on this one.

TECHNOLOGY WILL SAVE US!
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MALTHUS WAS WRONG!



Hilarious though.

Check out the responses to this comic:

http://9gag.com/gag/79004/


ETA: I agree with Cram that technology adds unpredictability in accurately gauging when the shit is going to hit the fan, but it's a completely different thing to say it's not a problem or, my favorite, that Malthus' simple observation is somehow irrelevant thanks to technology. It's a simple truth that we obviously should be taking very seriously before it's too late—especially since it's not at all clear when that is.

But from a monkey-observation point of view this is incredibly entertaining.

[Requia ☣]

Malthus *is* wrong, we already broke the trends he observed (which had been keeping the population more or less in check).

That's kinda the problem, we upped the food production so much that population can grow unchecked, but only until we strain the ecosystem past the breaking point, or run out of oil without coming up with a way to replace the things we use it for first, then instead of having not quite enough 99.9% of the population either starves to death or gets killed by somebody who suspects that they have a couple cans of food hidden in the basement.

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Malthus *is* wrong, we already broke the trends he observed (which had been keeping the population more or less in check).

That's kinda the problem, we upped the food production so much that population can grow unchecked, but only until we strain the ecosystem past the breaking point, or run out of oil without coming up with a way to replace the things we use it for first, then instead of having not quite enough 99.9% of the population either starves to death or gets killed by somebody who suspects that they have a couple cans of food hidden in the basement.

IT'S A BOTTOMLESS PIT OF FOOD AND LAND LULZ!

[Requia ☣]

*eyerolls* way to address my points there.