Government payouts supply more than 1/3 of all wages in the U.S.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

I'm trying to get a reaction, not be objective.

[Disco Pickle]

I rarely run into any fiscally conservative, socially liberal Democrats.  Not saying they don't exist, just haven't met any. 

I have found them in the Republican party.  They're usually holding their nose about it. 

These guys were actually working to get people elected to precinct positions and local offices that hadn't been filled in years, or hadn't seen challengers in years.  They had no problem calling out other Republicans on their shit, and two prominent members and local business owners were actually drummed out of the RPOF for DARING to question the platform and foreign policy positions of the RPOF and suggesting that the Republicans look less and less like Taft and more like Bush every year.  They're still with the campaign for liberty, and stand up guys.   

[Doktor Howl]

As for me, I don't think you're necessarily stupid for volunteering or trying to make a difference. I do however think you are necessarily stupid for using the Republican ANY POLITICAL Party for that goal.

Fixed that for ya Vex

Ratatosk is driving the correct two-wheeled, motorized conveyance.

Why the hell are we even discussing monkey politics?  Who cares what the primates do?

[Doktor Howl]

I rarely run into any fiscally conservative, socially liberal Democrats.  Not saying they don't exist, just haven't met any. 

The bolded term is an impossibility in governance.  Fiscal responsibility requires efficiency, and governments are by definition not efficient.  It is not in their nature, or indeed even desireable.

[Disco Pickle]

I rarely run into any fiscally conservative, socially liberal Democrats.  Not saying they don't exist, just haven't met any. 

The bolded term is an impossibility in governance.  Fiscal responsibility requires efficiency, and governments are by definition not efficient.  It is not in their nature, or indeed even desireable.

LEAVE MY ILLUSIONS ALONE!

but yeah, you're tragically correct.

[Doktor Howl]

I rarely run into any fiscally conservative, socially liberal Democrats.  Not saying they don't exist, just haven't met any. 

The bolded term is an impossibility in governance.  Fiscal responsibility requires efficiency, and governments are by definition not efficient.  It is not in their nature, or indeed even desireable.

LEAVE MY ILLUSIONS ALONE!

but yeah, you're tragically correct.

One man's tragedy is another man's pinata party.

But, given the above, what exactly are you trying to do?  If something is impossible, you are by definition wasting your energy - and precious time on this planet - chasing it.

If your strategy can't work, change your strategy.

If your goals are unobtainable, change your goals.

If you're just in it for the chicks, look up Lyndon LaRouche.  His chicks are hotter, and they'll fuck anything that claims to be crazy.

[Cain]

As for me, I don't think you're necessarily stupid for volunteering or trying to make a difference. I do however think you are necessarily stupid for using the Republican ANY POLITICAL Party for that goal.

Fixed that for ya Vex

The only stupidity is in doing it for free.

[Doktor Howl]

As for me, I don't think you're necessarily stupid for volunteering or trying to make a difference. I do however think you are necessarily stupid for using the Republican ANY POLITICAL Party for that goal.

Fixed that for ya Vex

The only stupidity is in doing it for free.

Approved.

[Disco Pickle]

mostly to help create a dialogue on foreign policy within a party that has for decades, at all levels, put forth the idea that questioning other members is off limits and you're to sit down, shut up, and vote the ticket.  

To offer up differing perspectives to the younger ones I meet who are really just parroting what they've heard from their parents (a problem with people on both sides, IMO)

In discussions, when I heard signs of unsupported yet vehement prejudice with regard to anyone not born within these artificial borders, I'd draw them out about it and try and shine a bright light on it and where they must have learned it.  

Even if I can't change their mind, I hoped I'd give them enough information to make them curious and pause before regurgitating the same tired talking points they picked up on their favorite blog.

I know monkey politics doesn't jive with your view of discordia, but I'm not here for your approval or disapproval.  Don't get me wrong, I hate you just enough to like you Rev.  but I happen to still have a bit of my idealism in my early 30's after one hell of a childhood that would have led many another monkey to prison, a grave, or worse, and that's pretty fucking cool IMO.

I'm going to hold on to it for a bit longer, use it up.  if I end up as jaded as you in my later years, so be it, I wont buck it.  I'll embrace it willingly.

[Doktor Howl]

To offer up differing perspectives to the younger ones I meet who are really just parroting what they've heard from their parents (a problem with people on both sides, IMO)

There are no "sides".  There is an arbitrary and false distinction which is used to keep primates arguing with each other, instead of the people that are fucking them.

There's an old English proverb that fits here:  "If you keep being their cunt, they'll keep fucking you."

But far be it from me to step between a primate and his/her irrational beliefs.  Carry on.

[Disco Pickle]

false dichotomy.  I know.  Convincing people of that always seemed to be one of the hardest things at which to get them to look. 

The "I'm right and they're wrong" script is really strong in almost everyone I've ever met.  Except for the ones who just go with it and don't waste brain time thinking about monkey politics.  They're the types I usually keep as close friends.  We can bullshit about it all without taking any of it seriously.

Mental masturbation for guys that don't smoke herb anymore.

[Doktor Howl]

false dichotomy.  I know.  Convincing people of that always seemed to be one of the hardest things at which to get them to look. 

Obviously.  You don't even seem to have convinced yourself.

[Disco Pickle]

I'm a primate, and completely susceptible to lapses of judgement and forgetting important things, and or setting them aside entirely temporarily, especially for the sake of a good discussion.

[Doktor Howl]

I'm a primate, and completely susceptible to lapses of judgement and forgetting important things, and or setting them aside entirely temporarily, especially for the sake of a good discussion.

Which is of course another way of saying that you are still a product of one particular brand of programming.

When questioned closely, you are capable of seeing the false dichotomy that is sold to the American public via every means of transmission available.  When left to your own devices, you revert to irrational beliefs.

[Disco Pickle]

why else do you think I keep coming here?  sudden personality changes are, in my experience, dangerous..  at the very least they can be confusing, leaving far more questions behind than the new answers are supposed to fill.  reprogramming is a process.  Have to tear out the bad wood first.

I'll get there.  In my own time.