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Started by pH, March 14, 2011, 10:12:11 PM

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Don Coyote

Quote from: pH on March 15, 2011, 07:23:58 AM
Generally speaking yeah. Ive never met someone who had decided on their own beliefs and held them solidly that got mad when they were questioned.

Donald, nothing was actually directed at you, i mentioned you lot reacting differently because you are both hostile AND apparently solid beliefs.

Blight, I mean it as interesting. New reactions are hard to come by.

We aren't mad that you are questioning OUR beliefs(specific to individuals), but because you are a grab [ETA} bag, asshat, ignorant, Christian bigoted individual, that is seemingly regurgitating the same anti-Christian spew that countless other "Wiccans" and "Pagans" have spewed forth before, because none of you will bother to do real research into your chosen faith or those of your supposed oppressors.

Prince Glittersnatch III

I still dont understand how someone is so misinformed about christianity.

Chances are if youre a native english speaker youve known christians all your life.
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pH

Its because you werent defending your beliefs. People defend things they think need defending, thats why bullet proof vests go over the torso but not the arms and legs. If you dont defend it, you feel either that it isnt being or wont be attacked, but more likely that it doesnt need to be defended.

And I would say closer to Agnostic than Atheist, I dont outright reject the concept of a god, I just find it hard to believe and see no proof. But, shit happens, there could be a god.

Donald, I'm well aware of my asshat status and have said so before, and I also believe that any time i was corrected by someone who knows more, I didnt say they were wrong and therefore accepted it.

Glitter, I moved all over the country. Never went to church, never asked about it, pretty much just got general idea because it was taught in school.
This is a distraction.

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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 15, 2011, 07:32:33 AM
I still dont understand how someone is so misinformed about christianity.

Chances are if youre a native english speaker youve known christians all your life.

I found that a bit surprising too. Especially someone who was raised at least nominally Christian
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Phox

Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 15, 2011, 07:32:33 AM
I still dont understand how someone is so misinformed about christianity.

Chances are if youre a native english speaker youve known christians all your life.
It's one of the great mysteries of our time, Glittersnatch.

Don Coyote

Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 15, 2011, 07:32:33 AM
I still dont understand how someone is so misinformed about christianity.

Chances are if youre a native english speaker youve known christians all your life.

Easily. My mother is Catholic. Guess how much I actually know about Catholicism. Several of my friends that I grew up with, in a conservative Christian community, know almost jack and shit about Christianity.

Don Coyote

Quote from: pH on March 15, 2011, 07:34:20 AM
Its because you werent defending your beliefs. People defend things they think need defending, thats why bullet proof vests go over the torso but not the arms and legs. If you dont defend it, you feel either that it isnt being or wont be attacked, but more likely that it doesnt need to be defended.

And I would say closer to Agnostic than Atheist, I dont outright reject the concept of a god, I just find it hard to believe and see no proof. But, shit happens, there could be a god.

Donald, I'm well aware of my asshat status and have said so before, and I also believe that any time i was corrected by someone who knows more, I didnt say they were wrong and therefore accepted it.

Glitter, I moved all over the country. Never went to church, never asked about it, pretty much just got general idea because it was taught in school.

We are not defending beliefs that are not ours so much as attacking your poor critical thinking skills and ignorance. If you want to assault an ideology, you should do more research than the gossiping of 'Wiccans".

pH

The extent of my knowledge of christianity that I am totally sure of:
Christmas is supposed to be Christs birthday
Mary was impregnated by god with jesus
Jesus was born in a stable
egypt was involved somewhere
3 kings gave gifts
it involves a bible
it involves a hierarchal structure currently
it has churches
moses parted the red sea
jews
burning tree, ark
10 commandments

thats about it that i know is correct, without a doubt.
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pH

I never assaulted an ideology, I questioned whether or not the bible was valid primarily, that just waved around the fact that I dont know a lot about christianity.
This is a distraction.

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Phox

Quote from: pH on March 15, 2011, 07:34:20 AM
Its because you werent defending your beliefs. People defend things they think need defending, thats why bullet proof vests go over the torso but not the arms and legs. If you dont defend it, you feel either that it isnt being or wont be attacked, but more likely that it doesnt need to be defended.

And I would say closer to Agnostic than Atheist, I dont outright reject the concept of a god, I just find it hard to believe and see no proof. But, shit happens, there could be a god.

Donald, I'm well aware of my asshat status and have said so before, and I also believe that any time i was corrected by someone who knows more, I didnt say they were wrong and therefore accepted it.

Glitter, I moved all over the country. Never went to church, never asked about it, pretty much just got general idea because it was taught in school.
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Quote from: pH on March 15, 2011, 07:39:08 AM
The extent of my knowledge of christianity that I am totally sure of:
Christmas is supposed to be Christs birthday
Mary was impregnated by god with jesus
Jesus was born in a stable
egypt was involved somewhere
3 kings gave gifts
it involves a bible
it involves a hierarchal structure currently
it has churches
moses parted the red sea
jews
burning tree, ark
10 commandments

thats about it that i know is correct, without a doubt.
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Nephew Twiddleton

So, I guess my next question is, if you doubt the existence of a deity, don't believe in magick, don't believe in karma, why define yourself as a Wiccan? I think this point was raised before, can't remember if it was answered. I don't know what your afterlife beliefs entail, but so far that seems like the only thing that can remotely tie you to Wicca, other than practicing magick which you define as you time. Or was that just part of the troll?
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Don Coyote

Quote from: pH on March 15, 2011, 07:39:08 AM
The extent of my knowledge of christianity that I am totally sure of:
Christmas is supposed to be Christs birthday
Mary was impregnated by god with jesus
Jesus was born in a stable
egypt was involved somewhere
3 kings gave gifts
it involves a bible
it involves a hierarchal structure currently
it has churches
moses parted the red sea
jews
burning tree, ark
10 commandments

thats about it that i know is correct, without a doubt.

Maybe you should go read some Bibles then.

Don Coyote

Quote from: pH on March 15, 2011, 07:40:14 AM
I never assaulted an ideology, I questioned whether or not the bible was valid primarily, that just waved around the fact that I dont know a lot about christianity.

You questioned the validity of a religion's holy text as far as discussing the actual religion.

pH

I mainly say wicca because i believe in karma as a guarantee that everything will reach some kind of equilibrium, i refer to the lady and her consort basically as pretend figures that mentally represent the two balanced forces, true i dont believe in magick, and as far as afterlife, i believe in a "rebirthing" cycle as in you will decompose and bits of you will be "reborn" as bits of grass above your grave eventually.

Donald- correct, and in doing so have achieved a better understanding of it, sooo Im not seeing where it went wrong.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Your list is leaving out all the Metal stuff that happens at the end, as well as Ezekiel tripping balls in the desert, people getting eaten by whales, God destroying cities for wanting to have sex with angels, some dude porking his daughters, and... oh yeah, Jesus rising from the dead. That last one is kind of a defining thing for Christianity.
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