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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, April 29, 2011, 09:23:55 PM

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Suu

English is screwed up anyway. At least you know in German the verb WILL ALWAYS be second, unless it's a question, then it's first...maybe, then any other verbs in the thought go at the end.

On the plus side, at least English doesn't decline nouns.
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I almost picked up a T-shirt at the last convention that said something along the lines of:

"English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over the head, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar."
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Suu

English is why Romance, Gaelic, and Germanic shouldn't have love children.
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Quote from: Triple Zero on May 13, 2011, 02:37:58 PM

"I'll come up with a solve tomorrow."


Fuck me.  I'm pretty sure I'll be hearing this soon.

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I think I took it from a reddit thread as an actual quote.

Quote from: Suu on May 13, 2011, 02:41:31 PM
English is screwed up anyway. At least you know in German the verb WILL ALWAYS be second, unless it's a question, then it's first...maybe, then any other verbs in the thought go at the end.

TIL what's up with Kirschtorte's Dutch, some days :)

QuoteOn the plus side, at least English doesn't decline nouns.

I only decline nouns when I'm outnumbered.

What's the difference between declension and inflection? (Hey, I just speak the language)
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Suu

#35
Declension depends on the case of the verb, which doesn't really effect much in English due to the fact we don't have gender specifics or any other word for "the". You really only see it in German and Latin. That's dealing with nominative (subject), accusative (direct object), and dative (indirect object) cases. (Or if it's Latin, add another 3 more...)

Inflection is the modification of a word, typically a verb, to change the grammatical voice, case, gender, etc. Again, not very prominent in English.

A cat is still a cat, even if it's a girl or a boy cat. If this was Spanish, it would be la gata for a girl kitty, or el gato for a boy, that's gender inflection on a noun. English doesn't do this.

The best example I can give in English (which is also in German) is inflection with verbs.

To write, wrote, written.

To sing, sang, sung.

Etc.
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"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Triple Zero

So, to put it in perspective, "inflection is sometimes caused by declension" ?
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Suu

Exactly!

Declensions always cause inflections, but inflections don't always mean there's a declension.
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We need Jenne in here.

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"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Anna Mae Bollocks

We had one sentence in jr. high english class that can mean six different things. It was so fucked, I still remember it:

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.
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Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 13, 2011, 05:12:35 PM
We had one sentence in jr. high english class that can mean six different things. It was so fucked, I still remember it:

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

Latin would clear that confusion up with word placement.
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Suu

That's emphasis, which you only get in spoken word, not in written. Which is why there's so much unnecessary drama on the internets.
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Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Suu

Quote from: Doktor Blight on May 13, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 13, 2011, 05:12:35 PM
We had one sentence in jr. high english class that can mean six different things. It was so fucked, I still remember it:

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

Latin would clear that confusion up with word placement.

Any language would BUT English.
ANY language would but English.
Any language WOULD, but English.

:asshat:
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Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Suu on May 13, 2011, 05:14:27 PM
That's emphasis, which you only get in spoken word, not in written. Which is why there's so much unnecessary drama on the internets.
THIS.  :lulz:
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Quote from: Suu on May 13, 2011, 05:14:27 PM
That's emphasis, which you only get in spoken word, not in written. Which is why there's so much unnecessary drama on the internets.

Yeah, because you can't make the wild gesticulations with your arms.  That always gets the point across better.  RWHN said while doing The Robot.
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Quote from: Suu on May 13, 2011, 05:15:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on May 13, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 13, 2011, 05:12:35 PM
We had one sentence in jr. high english class that can mean six different things. It was so fucked, I still remember it:

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

I never said he stole money.

Latin would clear that confusion up with word placement.

Any language would BUT English.
ANY language would but English.
Any language WOULD, but English.

:asshat:

:lulz:
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS