empire in chaos

[tyrannosaurus vex]

I guess this is for Cain, but not exclusively...

All signs point to the imminent collapse of the American "Empire." Of course nobody (in power, anyway) wants to say so openly (and who can blame them? I'm pretty sure the UK still refers to its own Empire as present-tense, in some official contexts), but it's fairly evident that as a global hegemony, Washington is losing its grip on the planet at an increasing pace.

So, first, do you think America's empire would have been more successful in the long term if it had gone the traditional route and reinforced its economic supremacy with outright political rule?

Second question - do you think the US is capable of sustaining this collapse without the Union itself dissolving? Russia survived the collapse of the USSR with its status of "not quite 3rd World" (mostly) intact. Does the US have enough resilience to fall from "Superpower" status without completely imploding?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I guess this is for Cain, but not exclusively...

All signs point to the imminent collapse of the American "Empire."

Again or still?

[tyrannosaurus vex]

I guess this is for Cain, but not exclusively...

All signs point to the imminent collapse of the American "Empire."

Again or still?

Chaos is like a pig, in that it has extremely long, drawn out orgasms.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I guess this is for Cain, but not exclusively...

All signs point to the imminent collapse of the American "Empire."

Again or still?

Chaos is like a pig, in that it has extremely long, drawn out orgasms.

Yeah, but I wouldn't start singing dirges for the USA just yet.  As a republic, maybe, but not as a world power.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

I guess this is for Cain, but not exclusively...

All signs point to the imminent collapse of the American "Empire."

Again or still?

Chaos is like a pig, in that it has extremely long, drawn out orgasms.

Yeah, but I wouldn't start singing dirges for the USA just yet.  As a republic, maybe, but not as a world power.

You're right probably. It's too bad the empire must survive at the expense of the republic. Stupid Romans.

[Suu]

I guess this is for Cain, but not exclusively...

All signs point to the imminent collapse of the American "Empire."

Again or still?

Chaos is like a pig, in that it has extremely long, drawn out orgasms.

Yeah, but I wouldn't start singing dirges for the USA just yet.  As a republic, maybe, but not as a world power.

You're right probably. It's too bad the empire must survive at the expense of the republic. Stupid Romans.

ROMA AETERNA EST.

[Don Coyote]

I guess this is for Cain, but not exclusively...

All signs point to the imminent collapse of the American "Empire."

Again or still?

Chaos is like a pig, in that it has extremely long, drawn out orgasms.

Yeah, but I wouldn't start singing dirges for the USA just yet.  As a republic, maybe, but not as a world power.

You're right probably. It's too bad the empire must survive at the expense of the republic. Stupid Romans.

ROMA AETERNA EST.

All of that boot.

[Juana]

I guess this is for Cain, but not exclusively...

All signs point to the imminent collapse of the American "Empire." Of course nobody (in power, anyway) wants to say so openly (and who can blame them? I'm pretty sure the UK still refers to its own Empire as present-tense, in some official contexts), but it's fairly evident that as a global hegemony, Washington is losing its grip on the planet at an increasing pace.

So, first, do you think America's empire would have been more successful in the long term if it had gone the traditional route and reinforced its economic supremacy with outright political rule?

Second question - do you think the US is capable of sustaining this collapse without the Union itself dissolving? Russia survived the collapse of the USSR with its status of "not quite 3rd World" (mostly) intact. Does the US have enough resilience to fall from "Superpower" status without completely imploding?

I'm going to stay away from the political rule question, but I think we'll survive as a Union just fine. We have a more more cohesive identity than the USSR did and we're not a boiling pot of warring ethnicities Washington is having to keep a lid on. 

[Jasper]

Yeah.  I think the US citizens would keep thinking and acting like US citizens even if the governing bodies were to fail. 

[East Coast Hustle]

That thought will be cold comfort to the first Californian refugee I see trying to illegally cross the Cascadia border.

[Adios]

That thought will be cold comfort to the first Californian refugee I see trying to illegally cross the Cascadia border.

On a positive note the Interstate Highway system would see a large reduction in traffic! 

[Laughin Jude]

That thought will be cold comfort to the first Californian refugee I see trying to illegally cross the Cascadia border.

I thought the plan was to let northern California join Cascadia and southern California sink into the ocean.

[Elder Iptuous]

That thought will be cold comfort to the first Californian refugee I see trying to illegally cross the Cascadia border.

I thought the plan was to let northern California join Cascadia and southern California sink into the ocean.

Cascadia ought to invest in the means to give southern California a little push, in case the time comes but socal doesn't nip off of its own accord.

[East Coast Hustle]

That thought will be cold comfort to the first Californian refugee I see trying to illegally cross the Cascadia border.

I thought the plan was to let northern California join Cascadia and southern California sink into the ocean.

Somebody's plan, maybe. My plan is to set up concertina wire around the entire perimeter of WA, OR, and ID and just keep shooting until the PNW has all the liebensraum it needs.

[Don Coyote]

That thought will be cold comfort to the first Californian refugee I see trying to illegally cross the Cascadia border.

I thought the plan was to let northern California join Cascadia and southern California sink into the ocean.

Somebody's plan, maybe. My plan is to set up concertina wire around the entire perimeter of WA, OR, and ID and just keep shooting until the PNW has all the liebensraum it needs.

So...I should stay here?

Coyote, doesn't like climbing through c-wire with bullets in the air.