Political Compass sucks

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

There needs to be an "I don't care" option for some of these.

EDIT: Okay, yeah, it's getting worse the farther I go. Take "There is no particular moral reason for me to help people who cannot help themselves." I'm putting agree, because I agree with the statement as it's written--I don't believe in objective morals, so of course I have no moral obligation to help other people. However, I love people and generally do whatever I can to help people so long as I'm not fucking myself in the process. I'm a shirt-off-my-back kind of guy, just not because I feel morally obligated along those lines. But I have a feeling this test's going to read my response as "oh hey you're a greedy, selfish fuck" because my value system is based on love of my fellow man rather than feelings of blind moral obligation to other people.

I didn't read that as being exclusive to objective morals, so I applied my subjective morals to the question.

I did as well

[Phox]

There needs to be an "I don't care" option for some of these.

EDIT: Okay, yeah, it's getting worse the farther I go. Take "There is no particular moral reason for me to help people who cannot help themselves." I'm putting agree, because I agree with the statement as it's written--I don't believe in objective morals, so of course I have no moral obligation to help other people. However, I love people and generally do whatever I can to help people so long as I'm not fucking myself in the process. I'm a shirt-off-my-back kind of guy, just not because I feel morally obligated along those lines. But I have a feeling this test's going to read my response as "oh hey you're a greedy, selfish fuck" because my value system is based on love of my fellow man rather than feelings of blind moral obligation to other people.

53% Economic Leftist
66% Anarchist
79% Anti-Militarist
91% Socio-Cultural Liberal
97% Civil Libertarian

Overall this still strikes me as pretty crappy and I think some of the questions are asking more than what's written down.

I agree. "I don't care" or "I am not sure" would be awesome.


60% Economic Leftist
16% Anarchist   
89% Anti-Militarist
89% Socio-Cultural Liberal   
57% Civil Libertarian

[Cainad (dec.)]

I want to make my own political quiz, and each and every question will have the option "I reject this question" in addition to "Don't care."

[Slyph]

"Those in a typical modern society who are the wealthiest are also likely to be the most creative, gifted, dynamic, and achievement-oriented."

Is/Ought.

[Thurnez Isa]

My dad helped me on the few questions I was having trouble deciphering so this more accurate for those keeping track

53% Economic Leftist (same)  
12% Statist   (went up by 6 percent)
34% Anti-Militarist   (went to where I suspected)
84% Socio-Cultural Liberal   (went down 1 percent)
61% Civil Libertarian   (went down by 2 percent)


Therefore I suspect each question effects several categories.

[*GrumpButt*]

46% Economic Leftist   (Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
38% Anarchist   (Anarchist / Statist)
54% Anti-Militarist   (Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
72% Socio-Cultural Liberal   (Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
50% Civil Libertarian   (Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)

[LMNO]

I couldn't get past the third question:

A member of a particular cultural or religious group should accept most or all aspects of the group's identity as a package: at least in general, she or he should neither ignore them or seek to change them.

the confusion of "neither/or" isn't just a grammatical clusterfuck, the entire meaning changes depending if they meant either/or or neither/nor.

[Phox]

I couldn't get past the third question:

A member of a particular cultural or religious group should accept most or all aspects of the group's identity as a package: at least in general, she or he should neither ignore them or seek to change them.

the confusion of "neither/or" isn't just a grammatical clusterfuck, the entire meaning changes depending if they meant either/or or neither/nor.

I took it to mean "neither/nor" from the context.

[Thurnez Isa]

I couldn't get past the third question:

A member of a particular cultural or religious group should accept most or all aspects of the group's identity as a package: at least in general, she or he should neither ignore them or seek to change them.

the confusion of "neither/or" isn't just a grammatical clusterfuck, the entire meaning changes depending if they meant either/or or neither/nor.

neither/nor makes more sense with the first part of the question

See why I had so much trouble with this. My grammar is not good to begin with.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

100% KILL ME.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

100% KILL ME.

The Roger Party*


*Illegal in 12 states

[Slyph]

"Those in a typical modern society who are the wealthiest are also likely to be the most creative, gifted, dynamic, and achievement-oriented."

Is/Ought.

I want to expand on this, sorry for the masturbatory self quote...

I don't like this question because, "Those in a typical modern society who are wealthiest" are able to pursue "creative, dynamic" projects, and to learn, precisely because they're fucking wealthy.

If I said "agree" it sounds like I'm endorsing Capitalism as meritocratic. If I put "Disagree" it's like I'm saying that the class you're born into doesn't affect you.

[Phox]

"Those in a typical modern society who are the wealthiest are also likely to be the most creative, gifted, dynamic, and achievement-oriented."

Is/Ought.

I want to expand on this, sorry for the masturbatory self quote...

I don't like this question because, "Those in a typical modern society who are wealthiest" are able to pursue "creative, dynamic" projects, and to learn, precisely because they're fucking wealthy.

If I said "agree" it sounds like I'm endorsing Capitalism as meritocratic. If I put "Disagree" it's like I'm saying that the class you're born into doesn't affect you.

Actually, I don't read the "disagree" that way. The class you are born into DOESN'T affect you in the specific ways listed here, unless you read "gifted" in a way to include financial support, education, and other things that are affected by class, but I read it as applying only to in-born characteristics.

[Laughin Jude]

I pretty much read that one as "Are you an Objectivst? Y/N" because it reminded me of Ayn Rand slobbing the riches' knobs about them being successful because they're the best and brightest at everything. That, and it doesn't take into consideration a side-effect of what I call the George W. Bush Effect:

Humans are subject to a particular bitch of an IMP (inherited meta-program): the mistaken gut-level belief that people who seem like they know what they're doing actually do. This is such a bitch of an IMP in modern American society because a certain segment of the population has evolved the ability to look like they might know what they're doing despite actually being fuck-ups. What's more, in a cruel twist of genetic fate, many of those who look like they know what they're doing have atrophied the mental capacities necessary to know what they're doing via a combination of 1) not needing to know what they're doing because people will follow them anyway and 2) a great deal of multigenerational genetic and social inbreeding among the country's most influential families. Let's call this the George W. Bush Effect.

Which is to say, people who are born into money and power that's existed for multiple generations seem to often be the least creative, gifted, dynamic and achievement-orientated people around. And let's face it, meaningful class-to-class economic mobility is pretty damn rare in twenty-first century America.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

"Those in a typical modern society who are the wealthiest are also likely to be the most creative, gifted, dynamic, and achievement-oriented."

Is/Ought.

I want to expand on this, sorry for the masturbatory self quote...

I don't like this question because, "Those in a typical modern society who are wealthiest" are able to pursue "creative, dynamic" projects, and to learn, precisely because they're fucking wealthy.

If I said "agree" it sounds like I'm endorsing Capitalism as meritocratic. If I put "Disagree" it's like I'm saying that the class you're born into doesn't affect you.

I refute this entire notion, simply by pointing at Oro Valley and the Eastern Foothills of Tucson.

Richer than fuck, and useless as tits on a boar.  Now, I go downtown, and there's kickass sculpture everywhere, typically made by brokeass motherfuckers trying to keep a bicycle shop open.