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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2011, 02:09:24 am »
I'd also like to point out that Rog also nailed an underlying trend:

That it has now become "acceptable" within certain circles to threaten a child with rape to shut her up and intimidate others from speaking their political views.

Yep. That's really what this is about, IMO; the very disturbing trend for certain groups to neither denounce nor shun those of their own who use tactics that previously, almost everyone wanted to distance themselves from.

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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2011, 02:13:29 am »
Importantly, this is the teaparty, who are quick as can be to censor people they disagreee with, whether in blogs or forums.

They can't claim this is because they are opposed to censorship, or supporting free speech or anything of the sort.

They do not censor this because they support this particular speech.
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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2011, 08:07:24 am »
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I did not get this memo.  I frequently troll kids IRL, and threaten them with cartoonish levels of violence.

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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2011, 10:20:28 am »
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #64 on: May 26, 2011, 03:05:59 pm »
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

This merely confirms my present opinion of humans.
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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #65 on: May 26, 2011, 03:07:19 pm »
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

This merely confirms my present opinion of humans.

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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #66 on: May 26, 2011, 03:07:40 pm »
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I did not get this memo.  I frequently troll kids IRL, and threaten them with cartoonish levels of violence.

Telling them some over-the-top crap about punting them back into their mother's womb is one thing.

Threatening to post their home address while a dozen slackjawed teabaggers drool over the prospect of raping the bad values out of her is another.
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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #67 on: May 26, 2011, 03:16:16 pm »
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I did not get this memo.  I frequently troll kids IRL, and threaten them with cartoonish levels of violence.

Telling them some over-the-top crap about punting them back into their mother's womb is one thing.

Threatening to post their home address while a dozen slackjawed teabaggers drool over the prospect of raping the bad values out of her is another.

There would be no place for these fuckers to hide if this were my daughter. 

I don't understand how any threats made towards this girl in this matter are not criminal.

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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #68 on: May 26, 2011, 03:18:18 pm »
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I did not get this memo.  I frequently troll kids IRL, and threaten them with cartoonish levels of violence.

Telling them some over-the-top crap about punting them back into their mother's womb is one thing.

Threatening to post their home address while a dozen slackjawed teabaggers drool over the prospect of raping the bad values out of her is another.

There would be no place for these fuckers to hide if this were my daughter. 

I don't understand how any threats made towards this girl in this matter are not criminal.

They are.  Unfortunately, the odds of a successful prosecution are somewhere between jack and shit.
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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #69 on: May 26, 2011, 03:30:05 pm »
Why is no one playing the pedo card? IMO it is fairly blatant in this case.

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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #70 on: May 26, 2011, 04:05:57 pm »
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

Which is not OK no matter what the scenario, but "general public random asswipe" is one thing, "speaking for my political party" is another. See the post about this behavior not being denounced or condemned, but tacitly encouraged by the other members of the Tea Party. The political aspect is relevant, no matter how much people keep trying to ignore it.
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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #71 on: May 26, 2011, 04:42:33 pm »
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I did not get this memo.  I frequently troll kids IRL, and threaten them with cartoonish levels of violence.

Telling them some over-the-top crap about punting them back into their mother's womb is one thing.

Threatening to post their home address while a dozen slackjawed teabaggers drool over the prospect of raping the bad values out of her is another.

There would be no place for these fuckers to hide if this were my daughter. 

I don't understand how any threats made towards this girl in this matter are not criminal.

They are.  Unfortunately, the odds of a successful prosecution are somewhere between jack and shit.

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Oh but I would personally try it in the media, rather than an actual courtroom!!   :wink:

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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #72 on: May 26, 2011, 08:27:55 pm »
Apparently Bachmann has been called out yet again.
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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #73 on: May 26, 2011, 08:30:16 pm »
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Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
« Reply #74 on: May 26, 2011, 08:31:32 pm »
Apparently Bachmann has been called out yet again.
By a 17 year old now

I wonder if she'll send a few teabaggers around to curb stomp him until he sees the light?
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