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Five [5] Things that Satanists could learn from Discordians

Started by Cramulus, June 21, 2011, 03:17:52 PM

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Cramulus

from http://www.satanicinternationalnetwork.com/blogs/post/1554

*"We Discordians should stick apart!": On a scale of Wicca to drama-free, the votaries of Eris have us beat-hands down. Why could this be? The more closely-knit a community, the more that peer and mentor relationships tend to moderate and maintain homogeneity among its adherents. Both Satanism and its dotty great-aunt Discordianism benefit from the opposite tactic. It is this sound advice that gives rise to the tradition that all Discordian popes undertake as their first papal action the excommunication of all other Discordian popes and momes.

*Although it is very good and wise to hold serious reservations about the existence of Deity, it is equally good and wise to entertain the possibility, especially when faced with the problems of theodicy, that god is a crazy woman.

*Both religion and humor are attempts to negotiate the mind-rending alienation and misery of the human condition and are excellent antidotes to the most horrible of life's pains-boredom. Religion and comedy are both born in pain, one seeks to escape or ameliorate that pain through its own means, but comedy approaches what is painful with an intimate smirk.

*The care and keeping of mythology is our responsibility. In the good ole' days, stone idols were dressed and made up continuously, as the ancients understood that devotion literally fed their gods, who would wither and die without it. The story of the Great Snub need not compete with the Illiad.

*Anarchy and advanced bureaucracy are phases of one renewing cycle, and the natural forces of entropy are sufficient to topple any tyrant.



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Quote from: Rip City Hustle on June 21, 2011, 03:37:53 PM
I don't get it.

I think it's something like, "Once again, Satanists are taking things much too seriously."

Cain

[6] If angels could see into Satanists hearts, they would cry.

Cramulus

I get these things on my google alerts and I feel compelled to share. I liked the framing of Discordia as Satanisms "dotty great aunt". And the reference to Wicca as the absolute top amount of drama you can have in one religion.

LMNO

I see the OP as a sort of, "You got the lyrics right, but lost the music."

Cainad (dec.)

Even if the language of it is a little weird since it's obviously written for people who are not like me, I approve of the basic concept: That Satanism has something to learn from Discordia.

Doktor Howl

For one thing, they could learn to walk upright.

Satan's rebellion was caused by his unwillingness to bow before man, because he thought he - as an angel - was superior to man.

So, if you're a Satanist, you're basically lining up to kiss the ass of a demigod that despises you.

It's sort of like being a teabagger, with even smaller rallies.
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I like the guy who says "I've always found Discordianism silly" and then goes on to say things that make it clear he has no idea what Discordianism is.
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Quote from: Your Mom on June 21, 2011, 06:18:47 PM
I like the guy who says "I've always found Discordianism silly" and then goes on to say things that make it clear he has no idea what Discordianism is.

Jeff the Conspiracy Freak thinks we're "juvenile".

I fail to see a problem, for a given value of juvenile.
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Quote from: Your Mom on June 21, 2011, 06:18:47 PM
I like the guy who says "I've always found Discordianism silly" and then goes on to say things that make it clear he has no idea what Discordianism is.

That guy was my favorite.  "I don't get jokes and I can't tell them, and things that I suck at are terrible."
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 06:05:21 PM
For one thing, they could learn to walk upright.

Satan's rebellion was caused by his unwillingness to bow before man, because he thought he - as an angel - was superior to man.

So, if you're a Satanist, you're basically lining up to kiss the ass of a demigod that despises you.

It's sort of like being a teabagger, with even smaller rallies.
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From reading through some of LaVey's stuff on Satanism, interviews, and documentaries, I'm pretty certain he was describing about the same thing that Discodian / Subgenius tries to work towards, just in more sensationalist wrapping.
There's the same theme of rejecting common assumptions / tropes, personal betterment / profit / "Bob", and having an enjoyable life instead of pining for a promised reward after death.

His rants in "The Devil's Notebook" were awfully similar to some of the rants here.  (Will post relevant quotes if I can find my copy after practice)

I agree that, by and large, most people purporting to be "Satanists" seem to be taking it too seriously. 
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Quote from: Cramulus on June 21, 2011, 03:17:52 PM
from http://www.satanicinternationalnetwork.com/blogs/post/1554

*The care and keeping of mythology is our responsibility. In the good ole' days, stone idols were dressed and made up continuously, as the ancients understood that devotion literally fed their gods, who would wither and die without it. The story of the Great Snub need not compete with the Illiad.


Is he saying that Satanists should look to Discordians for tips on keeping a mythology together?  Maybe the first priest to dress up an idol in gaudy crap was taking fashion and financial advice from one.

"Oh, no nonono! The Big Owl wants a red SILK shawl today. I happen to have the very finest, but just barely enough and I just hate to part with it, but if you insist. For the Owl!"

I doubt it got all traditional until after said Discordian's caravan was long gone.
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Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on June 22, 2011, 01:26:53 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 21, 2011, 03:17:52 PM
from http://www.satanicinternationalnetwork.com/blogs/post/1554

*The care and keeping of mythology is our responsibility. In the good ole' days, stone idols were dressed and made up continuously, as the ancients understood that devotion literally fed their gods, who would wither and die without it. The story of the Great Snub need not compete with the Illiad.


Is he saying that Satanists should look to Discordians for tips on keeping a mythology together?  Maybe the first priest to dress up an idol in gaudy crap was taking fashion and financial advice from one.

"Oh, no nonono! The Big Owl wants a red SILK shawl today. I happen to have the very finest, but just barely enough and I just hate to part with it, but if you insist. For the Owl!"

I doubt it got all traditional until after said Discordian's caravan was long gone.

I almost stopped hating you when you posted that.

Cut it out.
Molon Lube