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Started by Cain, August 08, 2011, 07:13:11 PM

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Triple Zero

Quote from: Cain on August 16, 2011, 12:49:18 PM
Really?  I hadn't heard that.

I had heard from a copper down in Tottenham that he had been beating people so hard he broke his truncheon in half, though.  So I suspect it was not an issue.

I thought I heard it here, I must be mistaken then.
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BadBeast

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 16, 2011, 11:12:26 PM
As of 8 minutes ago, British police have curfew powers.

http://gulftoday.ae/portal/cb13b736-d1bb-4cd0-9424-00f61f3169eb.aspx

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Quote from above article.
"Five people died during violence that ravaged English cities last week, including three men hit by a car in Birmingham, central England as they protected local shops from looters"

That's less people than generally get killed by violence in Tottenham over 4 days alone, , let alone the eight or nine cities that went off over the same period. Therefore the rioters should be given a collective public commendation for saving lives in this creative and entertaining manner. 
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Triple Zero

Quote from: BadBeast on August 17, 2011, 04:20:48 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 16, 2011, 11:12:26 PM
As of 8 minutes ago, British police have curfew powers.

http://gulftoday.ae/portal/cb13b736-d1bb-4cd0-9424-00f61f3169eb.aspx

MIEN SIEG!
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Quote from above article.
"Five people died during violence that ravaged English cities last week, including three men hit by a car in Birmingham, central England as they protected local shops from looters"

That's less people than generally get killed by violence in Tottenham over 4 days alone, , let alone the eight or nine cities that went off over the same period. Therefore the rioters should be given a collective public commendation for saving lives in this creative and entertaining manner. 

Wow really? What's the usual rate?

Needs to be reworded into bite-sized media snack.

"Violent crime mortality rate drops X% during London Riots

LONDON -- blablablabla blabla blabla explanation bla"
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: BadBeast on August 17, 2011, 04:20:48 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 16, 2011, 11:12:26 PM
As of 8 minutes ago, British police have curfew powers.

http://gulftoday.ae/portal/cb13b736-d1bb-4cd0-9424-00f61f3169eb.aspx

MIEN SIEG!
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Quote from above article.
"Five people died during violence that ravaged English cities last week, including three men hit by a car in Birmingham, central England as they protected local shops from looters"

That's less people than generally get killed by violence in Tottenham over 4 days alone, , let alone the eight or nine cities that went off over the same period. Therefore the rioters should be given a collective public commendation for saving lives in this creative and entertaining manner. 


At the original Woodstock Festival, a couple of people died from accidents.  This was made out to be another example of how hippies couldn't be allowed to have any fun.

Abbie Hoffman pointed out that they were the second-biggest city in New York State for four days, and only had 2 deaths, neither from violence.  Nobody listened, of course.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171232/ns/technology_and_science-security/

QuoteIt emerged Tuesday that British judges and magistrates have been advised to ignore regular sentencing guidelines and mete out harsher punishments when dealing with those found guilty of rioting.

Also, at the link, one Perry Sutcliffe-Keenan, 22, has been sentenced to 4 years for making a joke about the riots on Facebook.
Molon Lube

Cain

I told you guys.  We're basically East Germany, with (ir)regular elections.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 17, 2011, 02:45:13 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171232/ns/technology_and_science-security/

QuoteIt emerged Tuesday that British judges and magistrates have been advised to ignore regular sentencing guidelines and mete out harsher punishments when dealing with those found guilty of rioting.

Also, at the link, one Perry Sutcliffe-Keenan, 22, has been sentenced to 4 years for making a joke about the riots on Facebook.

Quote from: Cain on August 17, 2011, 03:41:30 PM
I told you guys.  We're basically East Germany, with (ir)regular elections.

Looking more like Amerkinz(TM) every day. :x
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BadBeast

No time to listen. Must work out how to implement a more robust response to those who would spread their moral decay upon the rest of us. Considered the Army, but that's a little bit too "Arab Spring" for a cultured Nation like us. Must build moar Prisons. Must give the Police Water Cannons, and Taser shields. Spray the bastards down with high pressure supercooled brine, then send in the new Electric shock Troops. Five minutes of spraying them, then Zap the first rank of smelly anarchists with 35,000 volts, and the shock should go right through the whole sorry crowd. That should ruin any pleasure they might have had from those new 42 inch Plasmas they were on their way home with. Might even stop a significant number of them breeding any more, as the residual current earths itself via their fecund scrotums.

Sorry Dok, you were saying . . . . .?
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Doktor Howl

Quote from: BadBeast on August 17, 2011, 04:11:49 PM
No time to listen. Must work out how to implement a more robust response to those who would spread their moral decay upon the rest of us. Considered the Army, but that's a little bit too "Arab Spring" for a cultured Nation like us. Must build moar Prisons. Must give the Police Water Cannons, and Taser shields. Spray the bastards down with high pressure supercooled brine, then send in the new Electric shock Troops. Five minutes of spraying them, then Zap the first rank of smelly anarchists with 35,000 volts, and the shock should go right through the whole sorry crowd. That should ruin any pleasure they might have had from those new 42 inch Plasmas they were on their way home with. Might even stop a significant number of them breeding any more, as the residual current earths itself via their fecund scrotums.

Sorry Dok, you were saying . . . . .?

Carry on.  You've got the hang of it.
Molon Lube

BadBeast

"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Cain

Unemployment figures came out yesterday.  7.9%, across the country as a whole.  8.4% in Wales, 7.7% in Scotland.  20% of 16-24 year olds.

Adios

Are the riots over yet?

Those unemployment numbers are almost as bad as ours.

Cain

Pretty much, yes.

Well, they're almost as bad as your official ones.  Our method of counting is a little different though, yours tends to hide a lot more relevant data, as a rule (ours isn't perfect, but is more accurate than some methods).

Reginald Ret

Quote from: Triple Zero on August 16, 2011, 12:05:42 PM
for such we have the ME ("mobile unit"). I discussed with my friends that this must be the most important reason why we're not going to have such kinds of riots here. and I'm not really sure if it's a good reason.

they're like a cross between military, police, thugs and killer robots. except they don't really kill, just maim and flatten. the guys with the facemasks, body armour, big sticks, you know the type. except ours are fucking organized. all wearing an earpiece, they only work in units, they don't have names, their unit has a number. then they make a row, and close in somewhere--this is when most smart people GTFO--and perform a "charge". if it's a protest and idiots think "let's sit down so they can't move us" they'll pick them up and just fucking throw them away, everyone in the way is fair game, a charge is supposed to swipe the streets clean.
oh yeah and there's the horses. big huge fucking strong horses with blinders that are trained to STEP ON PEOPLE.
and they're thugs. big part of their ranks is hooligans that just find they enjoy hitting people so much they might as well join the winning side. if you happen to be on the wrong side of an ME line, you can still get out provided you look innocent enough, but expect to be bashed about as you talked the front guy into letting you through, the one behind him will think you broke their line and you'll be out of there in no time.

I may not describe it perfectly, and I don't know all their techniques, but they're very good and efficient at what they do, usually, when they arrive, whatever's going on is over within 20-30 minutes.

so I guess, as long as these guys are around, affecting change in NL is going to have to go through the more democratic and/or traditional channels :)


My personal (and very limited) experience with the ME is of polite and confident men.
My guess is that their extra training gives them the convidence to be relaxed in almost all situations. Meaning they are less inclined to use more violence than ordered to. Wether this means they are more or less dangerous depends on the situation.
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Triple Zero

Quote from: Regret on August 19, 2011, 06:07:35 PM
My personal (and very limited) experience with the ME is of polite and confident men.
My guess is that their extra training gives them the convidence to be relaxed in almost all situations. Meaning they are less inclined to use more violence than ordered to. Wether this means they are more or less dangerous depends on the situation.

Really? That's funny, cause I have a rather opposite experience. They weren't very nice. And I'm usually polite and try to radiate calmness which tends to have a positive effect on policemen--and I was surprised that the ME was really really grumpy. :)

Well, good thing that my impression of them isn't a general thing, apparently.

The confidence thing makes a lot of sense, though.

Another possibility is, perhaps their training is that good: If you're being really tough and voice or communicate an ever so slight hostility [and you're wearing armour and there's 50 buddies of yours], I'll be out of your way really fast. Additionally, I can imagine with you, they thought polite confidence would be more effective where slight hostility might provoke you (dunno how much you looked like a punk/whatever that day, so maybe I'm very wrong)
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