Chesire man calls police for help, they kill him.

[Doktor Howl]

I think the American model of Policing, is a lot more 'user friendly' than the British one.

For the most part.  There are certain cities where you avoid them like the plague (Chicago, Los Angeles), but for the most part, our cops are what we used to think your cops were like.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Cops in Boston are pretty cool. I used to use them for a free taxi service when I was drunk and/or stoned and the buses stopped running. Fucking worked too. Go into a police station and tell them you need a ride home. They make sure they're not busy and reluctantly drive you that extra two miles to your place.

[BadBeast]

I gave up fighting the bastards pretty early on. I was never much of an idealist and I was much more interested in getting away with breaking laws than I was in asserting any imagined entitlement to liberty. Coppers paying attention to me was bad for business and they pay a truckload of attention to "troublemakers"

I wasn't so much an Idealist, or trying to make a point, (Although at the time, I may have said that I was) I just  wouldn't allow myself top be intimidated by Bullies. Still won't. But now I pick my fights better, and don't ever threaten violence. I will respond to violence with violence but I really don't like it very much.  I suppose I am quite fucking good at it, in a tight spot, but now that I'm older, I abhor all the posturing and aggression. And I have far more subtle and effective tools for winning before It gets to that stage.  

[BadBeast]

Cops in Boston are pretty cool. I used to use them for a free taxi service when I was drunk and/or stoned and the buses stopped running. Fucking worked too. Go into a police station and tell them you need a ride home. They make sure they're not busy and reluctantly drive you that extra two miles to your place.

I've used Police cells like Hotels before, when I've been stuck miles from home, with no way to get back. (Well, they have got to be good for something) And usually, got a lift home in the morning too. Without getting arrested. (That's what I meant by "More subtle and effective tools for winning") It might not souind like a "win", but it really was.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

I think the American model of Policing, is a lot more 'user friendly' than the British one.

For the most part.  There are certain cities where you avoid them like the plague (Chicago, Los Angeles), but for the most part, our cops are what we used to think your cops were like.

I made sandwiches for some cops yesterday and didn't get pepper sprayed, Tasered, dragged behind their squad, or otherwise abused. Probably not how it would have gone down in the UK.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

I think the American model of Policing, is a lot more 'user friendly' than the British one.

For the most part.  There are certain cities where you avoid them like the plague (Chicago, Los Angeles), but for the most part, our cops are what we used to think your cops were like.

I made sandwiches for some cops yesterday and didn't get pepper sprayed, Tasered, dragged behind their squad, or otherwise abused. Probably not how it would have gone down in the UK.

You are in Florida, that is a whole seperate breed of cop down there......

[BabylonHoruv]

It's not like one can call GhostBusters.  I mean seriously.  You are supposed to be able to call the local police and feel confident that they will help you.  That they will get the bad guys.  Of course this is all in a perfect world right?

This is a terrible thing that happened to this guy and one would hope that the police's internal affairs department will do something about it.  Problem is I'm not holding my breath on that.  It's a shame that you can't count on the very people who are paid to protect you to actually protect you.

I know this kind of thing happens, and I'm sure it happens more than we ever hear about.  It's hard to accept when you do actually read about it because you don't want things to be this way.  Here in the US (I don't know about other countries) we are taught in elementary school that the police are supposed to be your friend.  Anyone else remember Office Friendly?  It's practically inbred in us.  

Sorry, I'm rambling.....

Funny thing is, the cops in Tucson are how police were portrayed to us as kids.  Helpful, polite, reasonable.

Except the SWAT team, of course, which is something straight out of Reno 911.  After The Incident, they're not allowed to use their armored car, and after the recent ridiculous shooting, they're all under review to see if we even NEED a SWAT team.

The street cops you meet here in StL are actually quite nice and polite as well.  I've never been fortunate (or should I say unfortunate) enough that I've never met a St. Louis SWAT team, but I can only imagine.

The Incident?  Dare I ask?

They got a brand new M113 armored personnel carrier, painted it all black & white, etc.

FIRST call out, they go to a warrant on 6th street, to bust open a meth lab.  Problem:  They read the warrant as 6th AVENUE, and backed the armored car through the front wall of the house, and dropped the ramp...Only to be confronted with a woman in her 80s doing a crossword puzzle.

The lady got PAID, and the mayor took away their toy.

Just another day in side effect city.

The impression I am getting is that if this had happened in London they would have beat the old lady to death and then charged her family for the scratches on the vehicle.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

I think the American model of Policing, is a lot more 'user friendly' than the British one.

For the most part.  There are certain cities where you avoid them like the plague (Chicago, Los Angeles), but for the most part, our cops are what we used to think your cops were like.

I made sandwiches for some cops yesterday and didn't get pepper sprayed, Tasered, dragged behind their squad, or otherwise abused. Probably not how it would have gone down in the UK.

You are in Florida, that is a whole seperate breed of cop down there......

Georgia, but yeah.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Cops in Boston are pretty cool. I used to use them for a free taxi service when I was drunk and/or stoned and the buses stopped running. Fucking worked too. Go into a police station and tell them you need a ride home. They make sure they're not busy and reluctantly drive you that extra two miles to your place.

Boston cops might do that, but Salem cops wouldn't give you a ride if you were struggling through snowdrifts with babies. I know because it happened like that once. They say it's "against regulations".

We had a cop down here (TX) that was arresting one of my daughter's old friends at school for arguing with a teacher or some stupid shit. He threw her down and had his knee on her back trying to get the cuffs on her and while she was struggling, she hit him with her elbow and broke his nose. 

They charged her with aggravated assault on a police officer, it made the front page of the paper like she was some kind of psycho. Her parents had me tutoring her for awhile since she wasn't allowed back in school. I never had any problems with her. Between the teachers and the cops, they escalate a lot of shit.

[Reginald Ret]

Stop telling stories that make me want to punch cops!
You are severely reducing my chances of survival.

Also, in a slightly related note: I've noticed that the more i work, the bigger bastard i become.
At times I wouldn't help a lost child find his parents.
I might growl and scowl at him for annoying me with his crying though.
(This actually happened to me a couple of years ago,
I am still shocked that i did not help that kid then.
That's the day i decided that working less is worth more than any amount of money, i just need enough to pay for necessities)
Maybe that is what is happening to many cops: too much work with too much stress combined with a bad work-culture.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Stop telling stories that make me want to punch cops!
You are severely reducing my chances of survival.

Also, in a slightly related note: I've noticed that the more i work, the bigger bastard i become.
At times I wouldn't help a lost child find his parents.
I might growl and scowl at him for annoying me with his crying though.
(This actually happened to me a couple of years ago,
I am still shocked that i did not help that kid then.
That's the day i decided that working less is worth more than any amount of money, i just need enough to pay for necessities)
Maybe that is what is happening to many cops: too much work with too much stress combined with a bad work-culture.

You walked away from a lost child who was crying? 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Thats probably why he calls himself regret.

[Doktor Howl]

Stop telling stories that make me want to punch cops!
You are severely reducing my chances of survival.

Also, in a slightly related note: I've noticed that the more i work, the bigger bastard i become.
At times I wouldn't help a lost child find his parents.
I might growl and scowl at him for annoying me with his crying though.
(This actually happened to me a couple of years ago,
I am still shocked that i did not help that kid then.
That's the day i decided that working less is worth more than any amount of money, i just need enough to pay for necessities)
Maybe that is what is happening to many cops: too much work with too much stress combined with a bad work-culture.

You walked away from a lost child who was crying? 

He can't help it.  He's Belgian.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Gotta admit I can understand why a copper would be a cunt. If I put myself in their position, day in, day out, taking tons of shite off the scum of the earth I'd prolly be inclined to club first and ask questions later but I couldn't give a shit about the reasons, same as I couldn't give a shit about why the scum of the earth are like they are. I'm much more interested in the now. When I have to walk past a copper or a crowd of fuckheads I hate them in equal measure. Ironically it's the public I tend to have to be more careful with. I don't have a problem with a riot van turning up and clubbing to death a crowd of neds. I'd do it myself if I thought I could get away with it. There's filthy fucking animals on both sides of the badge.

[BadBeast]

Remember what happened to Smiley Culture? They didn't even bother to make up the usual ridiculously facile scenario, just said that he "Stabbed himself in the heart" on the pretext of "making a cup of tea", while they were in the other room. Conducting a drug search.
To be honest, I thought it might have kicked off then. Seems it just turned the heat up.