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Started by P3nT4gR4m, September 07, 2011, 11:36:42 AM

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P3nT4gR4m

Maybe someone can explain to me either how it's going to work or why I'm wrong cos I been scratching my head for a few days now.

Okay so we have a bunch of rich, bent cunts sucking the marrow out of the bones of civilisation. To all intents and purposes it would appear they are committed to bleeding every last drop. If that's the case then what happens next? The way I see it the whole concept of economic currency is on the verge of becoming meaningless. Capitalism is in freefall, pretty soon the banks will all collapse and probably drag the countries and governments down with them, right?

So what do the tubes behind this think will happen next? Do they have a plan or is it a case of sawing off the branch they're sitting on. Right now they rely on the law to prevent people like me from smashing their skulls in and taking their shit and, trust me, for the ones right at the top of the pile the only thing that prevents me from doing just that is the risk of being thrown in jail.

So what happens when there's no cops to arrest me and no jails to throw me in? You have to pay cops. When there's not enough money left to do that what happens? Do they reinvent the barter economy and give the coppers sides of beef instead of pounds and pence? Is there something I'm missing? Maybe the global economy is somehow going to actually survive?

I'm looking forward to an insanely violent lulzfest - when do I get it? :argh!:

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I think the bitter truth is that they haven't looked past making their next dollar.

Disco Pickle

"they" "them" "us"

what the hell's going on in this thread?

:tinfoilhat:

I swear if someone mentions flouride and chem trails I'll start bleeding from my ears.

Hawk is right, in that what he said has to apply to a certain percentage of people on the planet, but that type of personality isn't exclusive to people with lots of money. 

So who's this "they"?  Bond type ultra-rich super villans bent on erradicating poor people so they can have the planet to themselves?

Lex Luthor types who look at people without 7 figure salaries as a plague that should be exterminated?

What, as I asked before, the hell is going ON ITT?

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Quote from: Disco Pickle on September 07, 2011, 02:29:04 PM
"they" "them" "us"

what the hell's going on in this thread?

:tinfoilhat:

I swear if someone mentions flouride and chem trails I'll start bleeding from my ears.

Hawk is right, in that what he said has to apply to a certain percentage of people on the planet, but that type of personality isn't exclusive to people with lots of money. 

So who's this "they"?  Bond type ultra-rich super villans bent on erradicating poor people so they can have the planet to themselves?

Lex Luthor types who look at people without 7 figure salaries as a plague that should be exterminated?

What, as I asked before, the hell is going ON ITT?



Um, he spelled it out fairly clearly. And he is accurate.

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Hawk on September 07, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on September 07, 2011, 02:29:04 PM
"they" "them" "us"

what the hell's going on in this thread?

:tinfoilhat:

I swear if someone mentions flouride and chem trails I'll start bleeding from my ears.

Hawk is right, in that what he said has to apply to a certain percentage of people on the planet, but that type of personality isn't exclusive to people with lots of money. 

So who's this "they"?  Bond type ultra-rich super villans bent on erradicating poor people so they can have the planet to themselves?

Lex Luthor types who look at people without 7 figure salaries as a plague that should be exterminated?

What, as I asked before, the hell is going ON ITT?



Um, he spelled it out fairly clearly. And he is accurate.

What he's predicting has been predicted over and over again, going back to other major banking crisis's throughout history. 

The bad guys are always the same, and it's always bankers, politicians and lawyers. 

But the collapses are getting progressively bigger, that is true.  It's the nature of the beast. 

But P3Nt's is predicting a true and total collapse of civilization into complete anarchy and I don't think he'll see anything like that in his lifetime.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

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You don't get out much, do you?

Cramulus

What happens next?

we all get poorer and learn to deal with it


Is there a plan?

No, there's no plan. The only plan is to maintain the status quo and de-legitimatize things that might challenge the status quo.

if you want a peek at the plan behind the curtain, check out this leaked citibank memo from 2005.

Cain

Quote from: Cramulus on September 07, 2011, 02:50:13 PM
What happens next?

we all get poorer and learn to deal with it


Is there a plan?

No, there's no plan. The only plan is to maintain the status quo and de-legitimatize things that might challenge the status quo.

if you want a peek at the plan behind the curtain, check out this leaked citibank memo from 2005.

This.

Also, check out the history of Peru, or Prussia, or pre-Franco Spain.  A largely decadent, unproductive overclass using the state to advance monopoly interests, while everyone else slowly loses out, not being in on the inside deals.

That's basically the future, only we'll have tasers and the internet.

Dysfunctional Cunt

I have few doubts left that many of us here will be alive to see the collapse of civilization as we know it.  

The writing has been on the wall for years, all humanity has done is try to make it say what they want it to say rather than reading what it actually does say.

Disco Pickle

sauce is gone on that link.

ok, let's say you could take every penny from the top 1% in the world and distribute it evenly to everyone.  Now that top %1 is dirt poor, they have nothing.

What does that accomplish except moving new and more people into the "top 1%"

Should there, in your mind, even be an institutionalized penalty and reward system for risking something (for simplicity, we'll just say capital) against the success or failure of an idea or product?
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Adios

 :?

Who said anything about taking every penny from the top 1%?

Disco Pickle

Quote from: Cain on September 07, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 07, 2011, 02:50:13 PM
What happens next?

we all get poorer and learn to deal with it


Is there a plan?

No, there's no plan. The only plan is to maintain the status quo and de-legitimatize things that might challenge the status quo.

if you want a peek at the plan behind the curtain, check out this leaked citibank memo from 2005.

This.

Also, check out the history of Peru, or Prussia, or pre-Franco Spain.  A largely decadent, unproductive overclass using the state to advance monopoly interests, while everyone else slowly loses out, not being in on the inside deals.

That's basically the future, only we'll have tasers and the internet.

If it was basically the past, then it stands to reason it will happen again, sure.  We're nothing if not consistent in repeating our mistakes, and our collective memory is basically non-existent.

But other than scale, how does this differ from any time it's happened before?
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Cramulus

Quote from: Disco Pickle on September 07, 2011, 02:59:02 PM
sauce is gone on that link.


Huh. weird. Scribd tells me "This content was removed at the request of Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton LLP"... a firm specializing in IP law. Hilarious! And then further googling indicates that my scribd link was actually the top hit for the document.

No matter - once you put something on the internet, you can't take it back off. Like taking pee back out of a pool. Here's another copy.

https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0BzgUudifBc68ZGUyNzA0MzAtZDZkZC00ZmZjLTkwY2ItNzBlZWRmNjI1ZTNm&hl=en


LMNO

DP, I think you're muddying the waters here.

What I see as a main problem is that the top 1% has no new ideas, makes no product, and risks incredibly little.  The main earners of capital do so by manipulating game rules, not through "making" things.