Can I interrupt your very important business for just one second?

[Doktor Howl]

I need to stomp on the "wow, what I wrote is utter shit, delete that before someone SEES it" reflex.

YES.

You don't rant til your guts bleed in search of perfection.

Got a little something in my head, I will see about spitting it out tonight, once I beat it into something like a recognizable shape.

Some of it, for me, is that tossing up what bits I can do is fucking intimidating once I read what the "big boys" can do.  Something else I need to get over.

It's like not going to the gym because you're out of shape, and the muscleheads make you feel dumpy.

They had to start once, too, right?

Dok,
The anabolic steroid junkie of PD.

[Doktor Howl]

Too tired, too lazy, too busy blearily hitting the refresh button and the "read new posts" button to say howdy?  Boy, it's a good thing this hasn't turned into another form of television, right?  Ho ho!  At least THAT can't happen here!  

Damn, that was a nasty wake up call. Just what I needed.
Time to find the Slack.
Thanks, Dok!

(Lurked here for ages, probably posted once or twice)

And it isn't just writing.  Podcast.  WOMP.  Whatever...Just let the WRATH loose, before it turns your brain into oatmeal.

[Sita]

I will continue to read and watch forums without posting much, thank you very much.
My opinions I tend to keep to myself. They are generally not of the popular opinion, therefore I would probably get torn to pieces for them. I tend to try and avoid that type of thing.


Parts of this post has been backspaced and the whole thing close to not even being posted at least 20 times. And I just know I'm gonna regret it.

[Doktor Howl]

I will continue to read and watch forums without posting much, thank you very much.
My opinions I tend to keep to myself. They are generally not of the popular opinion, therefore I would probably get torn to pieces for them. I tend to try and avoid that type of thing.

Why?   

Parts of this post has been backspaced and the whole thing close to not even being posted at least 20 times. And I just know I'm gonna regret it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.  We MIGHT give you a ration of shit, but at least we won't arrest you.

[Sita]

I will continue to read and watch forums without posting much, thank you very much.
My opinions I tend to keep to myself. They are generally not of the popular opinion, therefore I would probably get torn to pieces for them. I tend to try and avoid that type of thing.

Why?   

Parts of this post has been backspaced and the whole thing close to not even being posted at least 20 times. And I just know I'm gonna regret it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.  We MIGHT give you a ration of shit, but at least we won't arrest you.

Because I've seen how y'all handle people that you don't agree with. I just can't handle that shit when directed at me.

[Doktor Howl]

I will continue to read and watch forums without posting much, thank you very much.
My opinions I tend to keep to myself. They are generally not of the popular opinion, therefore I would probably get torn to pieces for them. I tend to try and avoid that type of thing.

Why?   

Parts of this post has been backspaced and the whole thing close to not even being posted at least 20 times. And I just know I'm gonna regret it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.  We MIGHT give you a ration of shit, but at least we won't arrest you.

Because I've seen how y'all handle people that you don't agree with. I just can't handle that shit when directed at me.

Depends.  We ARE rather vocal in challenging peoples' opinions, but that's the whole point of a conversation, isn't it? 

The people who REALLY get pooped on are the people that come in DEMANDING it. 

[Luna]

I will continue to read and watch forums without posting much, thank you very much.
My opinions I tend to keep to myself. They are generally not of the popular opinion, therefore I would probably get torn to pieces for them. I tend to try and avoid that type of thing.

Why?   

Parts of this post has been backspaced and the whole thing close to not even being posted at least 20 times. And I just know I'm gonna regret it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.  We MIGHT give you a ration of shit, but at least we won't arrest you.

Because I've seen how y'all handle people that you don't agree with. I just can't handle that shit when directed at me.

If everyone in the world agreed on everything, there'd only be one flavor of ice cream. Fuck THAT noise.  I can't speak for anybody but me, but if you have an opinion that differs from mine and can defend it with anything other than "because GAWD sez so," I want to hear it.  Prove me wrong, sometime.  How is anybody supposed to learn anything if their opinions aren't challenged?

[Pæs]

I'm on my way out the door now, but I'll be in this thread later.
You've got a good sense for when it's the right time to kick the board in the arse, Howl.

[Sita]

I will continue to read and watch forums without posting much, thank you very much.
My opinions I tend to keep to myself. They are generally not of the popular opinion, therefore I would probably get torn to pieces for them. I tend to try and avoid that type of thing.

Why?   

Parts of this post has been backspaced and the whole thing close to not even being posted at least 20 times. And I just know I'm gonna regret it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.  We MIGHT give you a ration of shit, but at least we won't arrest you.

Because I've seen how y'all handle people that you don't agree with. I just can't handle that shit when directed at me.

If everyone in the world agreed on everything, there'd only be one flavor of ice cream. Fuck THAT noise.  I can't speak for anybody but me, but if you have an opinion that differs from mine and can defend it with anything other than "because GAWD sez so," I want to hear it.  Prove me wrong, sometime.  How is anybody supposed to learn anything if their opinions aren't challenged?

Ah, see that is the problem with me. I can't prove any of my opinions (which if it can be proven, then isn't it fact or something and not opinion anymore?). I don't think "because GAWD sez so", as you put it, but most times all I can say is that is how I feel.

[Doktor Howl]

I will continue to read and watch forums without posting much, thank you very much.
My opinions I tend to keep to myself. They are generally not of the popular opinion, therefore I would probably get torn to pieces for them. I tend to try and avoid that type of thing.

Why?   

Parts of this post has been backspaced and the whole thing close to not even being posted at least 20 times. And I just know I'm gonna regret it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.  We MIGHT give you a ration of shit, but at least we won't arrest you.

Because I've seen how y'all handle people that you don't agree with. I just can't handle that shit when directed at me.

If everyone in the world agreed on everything, there'd only be one flavor of ice cream. Fuck THAT noise.  I can't speak for anybody but me, but if you have an opinion that differs from mine and can defend it with anything other than "because GAWD sez so," I want to hear it.  Prove me wrong, sometime.  How is anybody supposed to learn anything if their opinions aren't challenged?

Ah, see that is the problem with me. I can't prove any of my opinions (which if it can be proven, then isn't it fact or something and not opinion anymore?). I don't think "because GAWD sez so", as you put it, but most times all I can say is that is how I feel.

On the other hand, if you never defend the basis of your opinions, you're indulging in memetic false consciousness.

[Sita]

And what if there is no basis for your opinions that you can find?

[East Coast Hustle]

Indeed, it's important to have your opinions challenged so that you can learn WHY you think what you think. If it leads to a ration of shit, well, in the end it's just the internet and you can turn it off and go outside. But at least you'll have developed a clearer insight into the inner workings of your own head, after which you can make an informed choice about whether and how to use that insight.

Otherwise, you might as well just be a human mimeograph machine.

[East Coast Hustle]

And what if there is no basis for your opinions that you can find?

Then presenting them for dissection might allow other people to find that basis, or it might allow you to revise your opinions. but blindly clinging to them just because they're YOUR opinions isn't doing anyone any good, least of all yourself.

[Doktor Howl]

And what if there is no basis for your opinions that you can find?

Then odds are, they aren't actually your opinions.  We live in a society that has perfected propaganda and marketing.  Every single day, we are bombarded with messages telling us what to think.  It's inevitable that we'll soak some of that up...And that's really a good chunk of what makes PD valuable.

[Luna]

And what if there is no basis for your opinions that you can find?

ECH and Dok beat me to it, but posting anyway.

If you need help finding the basis, let other people kick them around to find the roots.

The trick is to remember that challenging your beliefs isn't attacking you... and that if you put something out there to be challenged, admitting, after discussion and consideration, that you have changed your mind isn't a form of defeat.  It's an epic win.