Occupy

[BabylonHoruv]

I'm pretty sure that, ultimately, the foreclosure thing is sticking your finger in a dyke but I'd love to be proven wrong. Maybe everything will get fixed and the guys who stole all the lucre will turn around all, "terribly sorry, here's your house back" but I can't help feeling that it's some other kind of action that'll turn that one around.

It's not about winning hearts and minds. The bad guys don't give a fuck about hearts and minds, and are more than happy to stomp all over them. They know that fear is a greater motivator.

There have been some foreclosures that have been reversed by courts due to insufficient documentation and so forth.  The families having stayed in the house is part of why they were considered for reversal.

It's not total victory, but it does make a difference.

As far as hearts and minds, a popular movement needs them, that's basically the definition of a popular movement.  A militant revolutionary movement might be more effective but that's not really the nature of occupy at all, it would have to change its fundamental nature to become one and a military revolutionary movement would probably be better off starting of as an independent entity rather than trying to transform Occupy in that way.

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

http://nation.foxnews.com/occupy-wall-street/2012/05/09/occupy-cleveland-lib-terrorists-exposed

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

http://nation.foxnews.com/occupy-wall-street/2012/05/09/occupy-cleveland-lib-terrorists-exposed

One man's terrorist is another man's inept black bloc buffoon.

[Cain]

Or, as it will invariably turn out, one man's terrorist is another man's FBI funded false flag operation.

Their original plan was to destroy signs for banks.  Suddenly, they're planning to attack a bridge, which would require C4 to take down, and which is close enough to the border to be considered a Federal issue.  Where were they going to get C4?  Why the change in target?  Because an FBI agent provocateur offered access to C4 and suggested the target. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Or, as it will invariably turn out, one man's terrorist is another man's FBI funded false flag operation.

Their original plan was to destroy signs for banks.  Suddenly, they're planning to attack a bridge, which would require C4 to take down, and which is close enough to the border to be considered a Federal issue.  Where were they going to get C4?  Why the change in target?  Because an FBI agent provocateur offered access to C4 and suggested the target.

Yep.

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

Or, as it will invariably turn out, one man's terrorist is another man's FBI funded false flag operation.

Their original plan was to destroy signs for banks.  Suddenly, they're planning to attack a bridge, which would require C4 to take down, and which is close enough to the border to be considered a Federal issue.  Where were they going to get C4?  Why the change in target?  Because an FBI agent provocateur offered access to C4 and suggested the target.

That plus the NDAA is the scenario I'm dreading the worst. Just one tiny little link between something like this and the wrong mosque...

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http://www.occupywallstvideos.com/

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Zucotti Park just got reoccupied.

Watch them mill around and listen to their horrendous singing/chants via a livestream here:

http://www.ustream.tv/occupyeye

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Zucotti Park just got reoccupied.

Watch them mill around and listen to their horrendous singing/chants via a livestream here:

http://www.ustream.tv/occupyeye

I still believe that occupying a park is kinda missing the point.  It's of course better than sitting on the couch and bitching, but it doesn't seem annoying enough to be really effective.

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Zucotti Park just got reoccupied.

Watch them mill around and listen to their horrendous singing/chants via a livestream here:

http://www.ustream.tv/occupyeye

I still believe that occupying a park is kinda missing the point.  It's of course better than sitting on the couch and bitching, but it doesn't seem annoying enough to be really effective.

I totally agree.

I'm currently trying to dissuade Portland Occutards from reoccupying with mixed success.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Zucotti Park just got reoccupied.

Watch them mill around and listen to their horrendous singing/chants via a livestream here:

http://www.ustream.tv/occupyeye

I still believe that occupying a park is kinda missing the point.  It's of course better than sitting on the couch and bitching, but it doesn't seem annoying enough to be really effective.

I totally agree.

I'm currently trying to dissuade Portland Occutards from reoccupying with mixed success.

Oh, Occupying is a great idea.  You just have to take it to the wall.

[P3nT4gR4m]

My thoughts exactly. I'm not from America but any time I've heard mention of "wall street" it's never been a street they were talking about, it was a bunch of offices and trading centers. Now if you were to occupy those then, yeah, you might be able to accomplish something although bear in mind that you will have a fight on your hands and that at least one side of that fight will be bringing deadly force to the party.

If that all sounds a bit much then, yeah, maybe sitting in a park, bitching and whining and not upsetting anyone too much is more your speed

Protip: No successful occupation in history was accomplished by the invading army, sitting just outside the target objective and chanting kumbaya

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

My thoughts exactly. I'm not from America but any time I've heard mention of "wall street" it's never been a street they were talking about, it was a bunch of offices and trading centers. Now if you were to occupy those then, yeah, you might be able to accomplish something although bear in mind that you will have a fight on your hands and that at least one side of that fight will be bringing deadly force to the party.

If that all sounds a bit much then, yeah, maybe sitting in a park, bitching and whining and not upsetting anyone too much is more your speed

Protip: No successful occupation in history was accomplished by the invading army, sitting just outside the target objective and chanting kumbaya

Those offices and trading centers are called that because they're on Wall street. FYI.

[P3nT4gR4m]

My thoughts exactly. I'm not from America but any time I've heard mention of "wall street" it's never been a street they were talking about, it was a bunch of offices and trading centers. Now if you were to occupy those then, yeah, you might be able to accomplish something although bear in mind that you will have a fight on your hands and that at least one side of that fight will be bringing deadly force to the party.

If that all sounds a bit much then, yeah, maybe sitting in a park, bitching and whining and not upsetting anyone too much is more your speed

Protip: No successful occupation in history was accomplished by the invading army, sitting just outside the target objective and chanting kumbaya

Those offices and trading centers are called that because they're on Wall street. FYI.

Correct

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

My thoughts exactly. I'm not from America but any time I've heard mention of "wall street" it's never been a street they were talking about, it was a bunch of offices and trading centers. Now if you were to occupy those then, yeah, you might be able to accomplish something although bear in mind that you will have a fight on your hands and that at least one side of that fight will be bringing deadly force to the party.

If that all sounds a bit much then, yeah, maybe sitting in a park, bitching and whining and not upsetting anyone too much is more your speed

Protip: No successful occupation in history was accomplished by the invading army, sitting just outside the target objective and chanting kumbaya

It's been done before, there's a roadmap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Indian_Affairs_building_takeover