Okay, someone explain womens' clothing sizes to me.

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

Pants shopping makes me SICK 

Old Navy- one cut in a 2 is kinda baggy, another cut in an 8 is too fucking small
Guess- makes NO sense at all. Take the size, subtract 21 and the number you're left with is the size. So a 27 is a 6. Why not just say 6?!? And those are too small for me too. But the next size up is too big.
Express- too tight in the thighs
Most others- tight in the thigh, huge in the waist

Fuck this, when I move I'm gonna make all my damn pants myself from my own pattern

[Luna]

Watch me try to find a shirt that fits, sometime.   

[Cain]

It gets better: Women's sizes are not standard.  One company's size 6 is another company's size 9.


My personal belief is that it's a male conspiracy to keep women body-obsessed, shamed, and self-critical so they don't all get together and take over the world.

My belief is that women are involved, too.  But yeah, if you've ever seen the cover of Cosmopolitan Magazine, the "standard" that's set is laughable.  If a woman doesn't look like a 14 year old boy, she's a fatass, right?

And people will not even try to meet a standard like that.  They'll just give up and buy a mobility scooter.

The best part?  Almost all of those images in the glossy magazines are photoshopped to "improve" the body shape and remove skin blemishes.

Makeup and moisturiser adverts on TV also frequently do this (laughably bad, in many cases, but not all of them).  So it's not even an unreasonable standard, it's actually an impossible standard they're setting.

[LMNO]

"Having clothes that fit is more important than a number."
                            /


I swear, I can visually add or lose ten pounds simply by changing shirts, from one that fits into one that doesn't.

But seriously.  Almost nothing off the rack will look good on a person, unless you happen to be sized exactly the same way as the manufacturer set the machines that day.  Notice I did not say "designer", because by the time it gets to the store, the design has been seriously compromised.

The exception, of course, is if you spend extra money for clothes that were made with a bit more care, but even then the possible body combinations outnumber the style options.

So, save some money on the front end, and spend it on the back end:*  Buy a style you like that doesn't quite fit, and then spend $10-$20 bucks to get it tailored.  What, too fancy for you?  You can make a $15 blouse look like $75 on you just with a few stitches.  Best of all, you'll feel better when you wear clothes that compliment your body and actually fit you.  Which, in turn, makes you feel sexier.  So take the time, save the money, and allow yourself the chance to wear decent clothes.





























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[Triple Zero]

It gets better: Women's sizes are not standard.  One company's size 6 is another company's size 9.


My personal belief is that it's a male conspiracy to keep women body-obsessed, shamed, and self-critical so they don't all get together and take over the world.

same for male sizes, take some measuring tape next time you buy pants.

generally, more expensive clothes that fit "better", are in fact just larger.

sure they may also be cut in more pleasing models, but if you measure them, size is all over the place.

the basic idea is that, as men "graduate" to more expensive clothing and more "adult" brands, they get to keep the same sizes, because that's how good quality they are, while those cheap H&M clothes just don't fit "properly".

so while of course I agree there's more to "fitting" clothes than just the size number, I really wonder how well Tim Gunn's quote would hold up if the numbers would actually make some sense.



I also found, in a real cheap jeans store (Scapino, for the Dutch readers), the pants that were supposedly the same size even differed. Which was good, because it allowed me to just try on like 10 different pants and ended up with two pairs that fit like a glove for just 30 euros for both.

[Suu]

Pants shopping makes me SICK 

Old Navy- one cut in a 2 is kinda baggy, another cut in an 8 is too fucking small
Guess- makes NO sense at all. Take the size, subtract 21 and the number you're left with is the size. So a 27 is a 6. Why not just say 6?!? And those are too small for me too. But the next size up is too big.
Express- too tight in the thighs
Most others- tight in the thigh, huge in the waist

Fuck this, when I move I'm gonna make all my damn pants myself from my own pattern

Old Navy fits my hips, but not my ass and waist, so they just look BAD. This goes for GAP and BR because they're the same company. I've had to tailor a lot of my jeans.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

"Having clothes that fit is more important than a number."
                            /


I swear, I can visually add or lose ten pounds simply by changing shirts, from one that fits into one that doesn't.

But seriously.  Almost nothing off the rack will look good on a person, unless you happen to be sized exactly the same way as the manufacturer set the machines that day.  Notice I did not say "designer", because by the time it gets to the store, the design has been seriously compromised.

The exception, of course, is if you spend extra money for clothes that were made with a bit more care, but even then the possible body combinations outnumber the style options.

So, save some money on the front end, and spend it on the back end:*  Buy a style you like that doesn't quite fit, and then spend $10-$20 bucks to get it tailored.  What, too fancy for you?  You can make a $15 blouse look like $75 on you just with a few stitches.  Best of all, you'll feel better when you wear clothes that compliment your body and actually fit you.  Which, in turn, makes you feel sexier.  So take the time, save the money, and allow yourself the chance to wear decent clothes.





























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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

I haven't spent more than $15, total, on an item of clothing in at least ten years.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Teeshirt that's too small shows off the abs. Jeans that are too big + a good belt lets my legs move about anywhere I need them to. Comfy pair of boots or trainers means I can walk for miles and/or climb stupid shit when I'm drunk. Job done. Full outfit for 70 quid. Anyone who looks at me and thinks I look like shit? Fuck 'em.

Hanging your self image on a bunch of dumb magazines or a bunch of even dumber primates is retarded.

[Reginald Ret]

Teeshirt that's too small shows off the abs. Jeans that are too big + a good belt lets my legs move about anywhere I need them to. Comfy pair of boots or trainers means I can walk for miles and/or climb stupid shit when I'm drunk. Job done. Full outfit for 70 quid. Anyone who looks at me and thinks I look like shit? Fuck 'em.

Hanging your self image on a bunch of dumb magazines or a bunch of even dumber primates is retarded.

Well said.
I loathe anything tight around my neck though, so t-shirts are rarely comfortable.

[AFK]

I look fabulous in everything.

That's because I don't wear the clothes.

The clothes wear me!

[LMNO]

Teeshirt that's too small shows off the abs. Jeans that are too big + a good belt lets my legs move about anywhere I need them to. Comfy pair of boots or trainers means I can walk for miles and/or climb stupid shit when I'm drunk. Job done. Full outfit for 70 quid. Anyone who looks at me and thinks I look like shit? Fuck 'em.

Hanging your self image on a bunch of dumb magazines or a bunch of even dumber primates is retarded.

Well said.
I loathe anything tight around my neck though, so t-shirts are rarely comfortable.

Sucks to be you guys.  I look good in a suit.

[AFK]

Has anyone ever told you that you look like the guy on Parks and Recreation?

No, not the Indian dude, the dude with the moustache. 

[Mangrove]

Unrealistic/Impossible expectations ahoy!

(How much plastic surgery needed to be a Barbie)

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Teeshirt that's too small shows off the abs. Jeans that are too big + a good belt lets my legs move about anywhere I need them to. Comfy pair of boots or trainers means I can walk for miles and/or climb stupid shit when I'm drunk. Job done. Full outfit for 70 quid. Anyone who looks at me and thinks I look like shit? Fuck 'em.

Hanging your self image on a bunch of dumb magazines or a bunch of even dumber primates is retarded.

I'm glad you've solved the problem of poor body image and related low self-esteem among teens... you should give motivational talks at high schools and maybe open an eating disorder treatment center.

[Eater of Clowns]

Some people are just small, like Nigel's friend.  I'm glad she brought it up because there seems to be this thought that if you're tiny everything should be okay.  But when you have people saying things about how tiny girls look like little boys or the ever so hilarious eat a hamburger quips, it takes its toll.  Women can be beautiful curvy or petite or whatever, and it's just as unfair to either side to disregard that.