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Anon Ups the Ante

Started by Telarus, October 30, 2011, 10:37:58 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on October 31, 2011, 05:47:10 PM
Yikes.

I admire Anon for having the balls to even consider this, but they're in way over their heads.

I admire them, as this is the best example of TAKING IT TO THE WALL, ever, but they're doomed.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Faust

This wouldn't be the first time people have died indiscriminately because of anon. Sabu is saying the release of documents is still on for the fifth (which is a bit peevish to be honest when Sabu himself is from the other side of the world).
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East Coast Hustle

:lulz:

yeah, because Los Zetas can't afford a plane ticket to Japan.
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Faust

Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 02, 2011, 12:31:52 PM
:lulz:

yeah, because Los Zetas can't afford a plane ticket to Japan.
They would probably only need to make a phone call, this kind of shit is an embarrasment for all gangs worldwide, I'm sure there are contacts willing to lend a helping hand anywhere in the world.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Faust on November 02, 2011, 08:56:50 AM
This wouldn't be the first time people have died indiscriminately because of anon. Sabu is saying the release of documents is still on for the fifth (which is a bit peevish to be honest when Sabu himself is from the other side of the world).

When they've killed as many people with the truth as my government has with lies, let me know.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Faust on November 02, 2011, 12:42:11 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 02, 2011, 12:31:52 PM
:lulz:

yeah, because Los Zetas can't afford a plane ticket to Japan.
They would probably only need to make a phone call, this kind of shit is an embarrasment for all gangs worldwide, I'm sure there are contacts willing to lend a helping hand anywhere in the world.

Not sure if there's a whole lot of contact between the Zetas and Yakuza, but, I'm sure someone knows someone.
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Cain

If Los Zetas have dealings with Peruvian organised crime, and given the amount of coca in the country this is not unlikely, then they have contacts in Japan.

We know Hezbollah have a presence in South America, as do the Italian 'Ndrangheta.   World's a small place, yo.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 02, 2011, 12:35:27 AM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on October 31, 2011, 05:47:10 PM
Yikes.

I admire Anon for having the balls to even consider this, but they're in way over their heads.

I admire them, as this is the best example of TAKING IT TO THE WALL, ever, but they're doomed.



The interesting thing is that they may well be doomed, but they're taking a fuckton of people with them.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on November 02, 2011, 03:54:24 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 02, 2011, 12:35:27 AM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on October 31, 2011, 05:47:10 PM
Yikes.

I admire Anon for having the balls to even consider this, but they're in way over their heads.

I admire them, as this is the best example of TAKING IT TO THE WALL, ever, but they're doomed.



The interesting thing is that they may well be doomed, but they're taking a fuckton of people with them.

If the truths that behind your existence are fatal, then perhaps it's time to change those truths.  With a different name, in a far-off land, in a career that doesn't involve smuggling, human trade, etc.  These aren't plaster saints that are being dragged out into the light of day. 

True, most of them aren't actually cartel members, but only the people that make the cartel's business possible.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

East Coast Hustle

I think the point wasn't so much that this will result in the deaths of people involved with the cartels but that it will result in the deaths of people involved with Anonymous.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 02, 2011, 04:07:40 PM
I think the point wasn't so much that this will result in the deaths of people involved with the cartels but that it will result in the deaths of people involved with Anonymous.

It'll do both!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Cain on November 02, 2011, 03:53:01 PM
If Los Zetas have dealings with Peruvian organised crime, and given the amount of coca in the country this is not unlikely, then they have contacts in Japan.

We know Hezbollah have a presence in South America, as do the Italian 'Ndrangheta.   World's a small place, yo.

Sayeth the wikipedia (but note the citation needed):

QuoteMexico
Yakuza in Mexico are most notably involved in illegal immigration. There were cases in the 1990s of yakuza recruiting young women (mainly with diplomas and good English knowledge) with promises of legitimate work in Japan.[citation needed] When the women arrived in Japan they were forced into prostitution. Some women were able to escape their employers and return home to Mexico and alert authorities. In some incidents, Mexican authorities were able to apprehend the yakuza members and deported them as illegal immigrants.
Similar incidents have also occurred in Peru where women have been enticed to work in Japan. The Association of Hispanic Women Against Discrimination and Gender Violence or "Women in Action" estimates nearly 3,000 Mexican women recruited by the various yakuza clans prostitute themselves in Japan.[citation needed]
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on November 02, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
I am fascinated by mainstream media's spin: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-20128981/anonymous-vs-zetas-in-clash-of-shadow-groups/

The mainstream media, of course, would very much like to see Anon get their collective heads cut off in Tampico.  Anon is running around telling the truth,  and the media has a vested interest in that not occurring.  For further information, google "Assange, Julian, media treatment of".
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 02, 2011, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 02, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
I am fascinated by mainstream media's spin: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-20128981/anonymous-vs-zetas-in-clash-of-shadow-groups/

The mainstream media, of course, would very much like to see Anon get their collective heads cut off in Tampico.  Anon is running around telling the truth,  and the media has a vested interest in that not occurring.  For further information, google "Assange, Julian, media treatment of".

Yes, indeed.

I love how easy it is to interpret the level of seriousness as an inverse proportion to the mainstream media's efforts at dismissal. Here, there is a combined effort to belittle Anonymous as insignificant and disorganized, releasing information that is little more than rumor, and yet also a conflicting message, which is that the Zetas will kill them and  anyone associated with them. It's a combination of effort to diminish the threat and a fear tactic. This tells me that CBS, at least, is regarding the case of Anonymous vs. Zetas very, very seriously.

Any time a major news outlet takes the time to report on something to tell you that it's not very significant at all, it is absolutely significant and people are freaking the fuck out.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."