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Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
« Reply #345 on: March 10, 2020, 07:27:27 am »
The Dems sure like to attack those same parts, they just want the Republicans to use more polite language about it.
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« Reply #346 on: March 10, 2020, 09:23:04 am »
What bugs me is that anyone who tried to publish Common Sense these days would be laughed off the stage because "we don't need no stinking reason in America" and "don't be such an intellectual". And the fact that the Democrats never actually make any arguments against the philosophy of fascism, they just sort of dither around why its various expressions might be unpalatable in some cases. Ronald Reagan's lumbering corpse continues to beat American Politics over the head 40 years later, but where are the Democrats saying that "Government isn't the problem"? All they ever say is "ok ok government is the problem but maybe it's a necessary evil? please?"

Personally I would love to see some Democrats who admit and understand that government is the problem.  Cutting the military would be lovely, eliminating the prison industrial complex, ending the drug war, opening the borders.  I'm sure there are more bad things the government is doing.  Unfortunately Republicans only seem to be interested in attacking the good things government does, while Democrats very weakly defend those parts.

They have a vested interest in keeping everything you described. You wont get reform from government, and they couldn't even attempt it unless the rigged system was removed
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« Reply #347 on: March 11, 2020, 10:25:21 am »
i donít know why thereís this theory going around that Biden is going to pick a Republican VP.

The Democratic Party is going to go down in a sea of its own rancid diarrhea if he does. I canít imagine any single move that would more universally destroy support for the Dems.

And while I can witness this shit thatís happened so far, and say ďyeah okay this is in keeping with the Dems,Ē I canít imagine them cutting their own limbs off and injecting themselves full of bleach.

I guess what Iím saying is: Whoís piloting this plane? Please donít let it be Joe Biden.
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« Reply #348 on: March 11, 2020, 02:15:08 pm »
This is a good time to practice that "form a coalition" thing that we progressives frankly suck at


if Trump wins, gonna be a lot of finger pointing within the left wing

my finger will be pointing at the people who made it harder for Biden to win by framing him as the ENEMY, equivalent to Trump. The people who are basically spitting out the right-wing talking points about Biden.


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« Reply #349 on: March 11, 2020, 02:28:53 pm »
i donít know why thereís this theory going around that Biden is going to pick a Republican VP.

He previously said he would be open to picking one.

FWIW, I absolutely don't believe that he would, even for a second. But it sends the right kind of signals to another kind of crowd, the Republican surbanites put off by Trump. "Ah, he's reasonable, he can reach across the aisle, he's a moderate." I don't believe that sentence was uttered without at least three different focus groups and a high-powered Manhattan PR firm being involved, because that's how politics is done.

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« Reply #350 on: March 11, 2020, 03:26:22 pm »
This is a good time to practice that "form a coalition" thing that we progressives frankly suck at


if Trump wins, gonna be a lot of finger pointing within the left wing

my finger will be pointing at the people who made it harder for Biden to win by framing him as the ENEMY, equivalent to Trump. The people who are basically spitting out the right-wing talking points about Biden.

If Trump wins due to left butthurt, then fuck the left, I give up, and good luck to everyone.
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« Reply #351 on: March 11, 2020, 03:26:55 pm »
i donít know why thereís this theory going around that Biden is going to pick a Republican VP.

He previously said he would be open to picking one.

FWIW, I absolutely don't believe that he would, even for a second. But it sends the right kind of signals to another kind of crowd, the Republican surbanites put off by Trump. "Ah, he's reasonable, he can reach across the aisle, he's a moderate." I don't believe that sentence was uttered without at least three different focus groups and a high-powered Manhattan PR firm being involved, because that's how politics is done.

I also believe the "You're full of shit" thing was staged.
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« Reply #352 on: March 11, 2020, 03:53:04 pm »
Could be. I honestly didn't even bother to watch the video because it seemed like such a non-event, but given the way the chattering classes are lapping the whole thing up, it's obviously red meat for some of them.

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« Reply #353 on: March 11, 2020, 05:52:48 pm »
i donít know why thereís this theory going around that Biden is going to pick a Republican VP.

He previously said he would be open to picking one.

FWIW, I absolutely don't believe that he would, even for a second. But it sends the right kind of signals to another kind of crowd, the Republican surbanites put off by Trump. "Ah, he's reasonable, he can reach across the aisle, he's a moderate." I don't believe that sentence was uttered without at least three different focus groups and a high-powered Manhattan PR firm being involved, because that's how politics is done.

I also believe the "You're full of shit" thing was staged.

re: "you're full of shit"

I saw a random friend-of-a-friend (so take this with a bigass grain of salt) commenting on it - said they worked in a foundry and that kind of language is "how we talk" -- that Biden probably came off real well to the audience present

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I'd like to believe it

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« Reply #354 on: March 11, 2020, 07:05:02 pm »
i donít know why thereís this theory going around that Biden is going to pick a Republican VP.

He previously said he would be open to picking one.

FWIW, I absolutely don't believe that he would, even for a second. But it sends the right kind of signals to another kind of crowd, the Republican surbanites put off by Trump. "Ah, he's reasonable, he can reach across the aisle, he's a moderate." I don't believe that sentence was uttered without at least three different focus groups and a high-powered Manhattan PR firm being involved, because that's how politics is done.

I also believe the "You're full of shit" thing was staged.

re: "you're full of shit"

I saw a random friend-of-a-friend (so take this with a bigass grain of salt) commenting on it - said they worked in a foundry and that kind of language is "how we talk" -- that Biden probably came off real well to the audience present

:shrug:

I'd like to believe it

I started in the trades, and I am still around that environment, and dude is correct.
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