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Started by Placid Dingo, February 17, 2012, 06:48:27 AM

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Kai

#30
February 20, 2012, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 18, 2012, 08:01:43 PM
Yeah thats the shitty part. Everyone thinks in the short term and doesnt want to be inconvenienced now. Iirc kai pointed out that home recycling is essentially useless even if everyone does it since its such a small percentage of the problem.

It really is. Promotion of residential recycling, while an obviously good thing, is useless unless commercial industries follow suit. It also causes people to ignore far larger problems of inefficient fuel and water use by industry and, especially for the latter, agriculture. In the whole picture, what residential households do with waste, fuel, and water is such a tiny piece of the pie that it wouldn't make any difference if they stopped. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't. It means that it's a tiny part to the massive improvement needed.

I will say one thing about paper recycling though. The chemicals needed to expunge the dyes from paper products are often worse than the primary production chemicals. In many ways I'd rather farm aspen for clearcutting (because they grow right back up, and make excellent pulp) than recycle some of these paper products (not cardboard, incidentally; that's a solid recycling strategy).
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

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The Rev

#31
February 20, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
I don't...I just don't...

VANCOUVER, Canada - The world's first "test-tube" meat, a hamburger made from a cow's stem cells, will be produced this fall, Dutch scientist Mark Post told a major science conference on Sunday.

Post's aim is to invent an efficient way to produce skeletal muscle tissue in a laboratory that exactly mimics meat, and eventually replace the entire meat-animal industry.

The ingredients for his first burger are "still in a laboratory phase," he said, but by fall "we have committed ourselves to make a couple of thousand of small tissues, and then assemble them into a hamburger."

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/02/20/12/first-test-tube-hamburger-ready-fall-researchers

The Good Reverend Roger

#32
February 20, 2012, 08:23:14 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
Post's aim is to invent an efficient way to produce skeletal muscle tissue in a laboratory that exactly mimics meat, and eventually replace the entire meat-animal industry.

Annnnnd cows will be extinct by Tuesday of the following week.   :lulz:

And we're all dead the following week from bad prions.   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Rev

#33
February 20, 2012, 08:26:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 08:23:14 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
Post's aim is to invent an efficient way to produce skeletal muscle tissue in a laboratory that exactly mimics meat, and eventually replace the entire meat-animal industry.

Annnnnd cows will be extinct by Tuesday of the following week.   :lulz:

And we're all dead the following week from bad prions.   :lulz:

If it's going to take until fall to make one fucking burger, we'll all starve to death long before they can poison us.

The Good Reverend Roger

#34
February 20, 2012, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 08:26:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 08:23:14 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
Post's aim is to invent an efficient way to produce skeletal muscle tissue in a laboratory that exactly mimics meat, and eventually replace the entire meat-animal industry.

Annnnnd cows will be extinct by Tuesday of the following week.   :lulz:

And we're all dead the following week from bad prions.   :lulz:

If it's going to take until fall to make one fucking burger, we'll all starve to death long before they can poison us.

Yeah, well, we have cows until they figure it out.

Then we all die of DIIIIIIIIABETES!   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

#35
February 20, 2012, 08:58:36 PM
I want mine Bunsen Burner-broiled. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Rev

#36
February 20, 2012, 09:02:01 PM Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 06:45:45 PM by Charley Brown
I'm just going to start eating people when they do away with real meat. That will start reducing the stress on the planet.

Chairman Risus

#37
February 21, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
I don't...I just don't...

VANCOUVER, Canada - The world's first "test-tube" meat, a hamburger made from a cow's stem cells, will be produced this fall, Dutch scientist Mark Post told a major science conference on Sunday.

Post's aim is to invent an efficient way to produce skeletal muscle tissue in a laboratory that exactly mimics meat, and eventually replace the entire meat-animal industry.

The ingredients for his first burger are "still in a laboratory phase," he said, but by fall "we have committed ourselves to make a couple of thousand of small tissues, and then assemble them into a hamburger."

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/02/20/12/first-test-tube-hamburger-ready-fall-researchers

I'm just curious as to how they'll re-brand it.

The Rev

#38
February 21, 2012, 06:49:39 PM
Quote from: Risus on February 21, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
I don't...I just don't...

VANCOUVER, Canada - The world's first "test-tube" meat, a hamburger made from a cow's stem cells, will be produced this fall, Dutch scientist Mark Post told a major science conference on Sunday.

Post's aim is to invent an efficient way to produce skeletal muscle tissue in a laboratory that exactly mimics meat, and eventually replace the entire meat-animal industry.

The ingredients for his first burger are "still in a laboratory phase," he said, but by fall "we have committed ourselves to make a couple of thousand of small tissues, and then assemble them into a hamburger."

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/02/20/12/first-test-tube-hamburger-ready-fall-researchers

I'm just curious as to how they'll re-brand it.

The Other Red Non-Meat

Nephew Twiddleton

#39
February 21, 2012, 06:53:26 PM
Vegan meat.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#40
February 21, 2012, 07:20:29 PM
VAT MEAT

IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME

The logical conclusion to this is that someone will grow some human vat-meat and eat it. Maybe out of HeLa cells.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#41
February 21, 2012, 07:20:55 PM
Dear Henrietta; Thank you for feeding the world!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#42
February 21, 2012, 07:21:12 PM
I'm so sorry for saying that.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

The Good Reverend Roger

#43
February 21, 2012, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 21, 2012, 07:20:29 PM
VAT MEAT

IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME

The logical conclusion to this is that someone will grow some human vat-meat and eat it. Maybe out of HeLa cells.

Warren Ellis is right about EVERYTHING.   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#44
February 21, 2012, 07:21:53 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 21, 2012, 07:21:12 PM
I'm so sorry for saying that.

Someone was gonna do it.   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.
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