UNLIMITED "Vaginas are scary" discussion thread!

[Cain]

You can only have abortions up to 12 weeks into a pregnancy in Mexico, though, and it is banned entirely in 13 of 31 states.

[Oysters Rockefeller]

I feel a little better now.


Not much, but a little.

[navkat]

Thank you, jesus. Mexico is soooo back alley. If you want the best work done, I know a guy in LA who is the the absolute best. I go to him all the time. If you mention my name, he'll give you a nice quote.

I have an appointment with him next month. I'll bring home a brochure.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

You can only have abortions up to 12 weeks into a pregnancy in Mexico, though, and it is banned entirely in 13 of 31 states.

Damn Catholics! 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans. Within a couple of years, though, due to the poor dietary options and lack of health care, their health declines to become worse than average for natural-born US citizens. (They still have healthier babies and lower maternal death, though. Nobody is really sure what that's all about.)

[navkat]

The jury's still out on this for me, but there's a movement about the medical industry pushing unnecessary pregnancy related procedures and that the way we handle pregnancy and labor in this country (as another industry) affecs everything from birthweight to c-section rate to infant death.

I don't know if I believe our problem is that we all need to stop shaving, put a blow up pool in the livingroom, forego the epidural and hire a doula--I tend to liken the anti-hospital moms with the anti-immunization moms--but there's something wrong with our numbers here.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yes; the worst thing that ever happened to childbirth in this country was medicalization. Infant and maternal mortality skyrocketed, and while they declined significantly once doctors figured out that whole "washing their hands after mucking around in infected wounds" bit, they're still far too high and the main reason is probably a combination of excessive pathologization of a healthy and normal process, and of locating birth centers in hospitals, with all of their attendant risks.

Ideally, birth centers should be completely separate buildings from hospitals, and be primarily staffed with midwives, with staff MDs available if necessary.

[Doktor Howl]

Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans. Within a couple of years, though, due to the poor dietary options and lack of health care, their health declines to become worse than average for natural-born US citizens. (They still have healthier babies and lower maternal death, though. Nobody is really sure what that's all about.)

Some of it might be dietary, too. One of my friends married a guy from Chihuahua and he did all the cooking because he enjoyed it and he was good/i] at it. He never fried anything or used ground meat, for taco meat he'd buy a round steak and cut it up and boil it. He used corn tortillas, never flour, made fresh salsa every evening (there was always some left over for breakfast tacos) and always included a lot of veggies. His one vice was beer, but he stayed whippet thin. I used to love eating over there, except when he made fish head soup. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

I know that's true of Asian immigrants, but WHO figures don't back that up for Mexican immigrants.

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C=mex

[Doktor Howl]

Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

I know that's true of Asian immigrants, but WHO figures don't back that up for Mexican immigrants.

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C=mex

ZANG!

Another truism slain by an ugly fact.

WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO NIGEL, NIGEL?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

I know that's true of Asian immigrants, but WHO figures don't back that up for Mexican immigrants.

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C=mex

ZANG!

Another truism slain by an ugly fact.

WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO NIGEL, NIGEL?

[Doktor Howl]

Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

I know that's true of Asian immigrants, but WHO figures don't back that up for Mexican immigrants.

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C=mex

ZANG!

Another truism slain by an ugly fact.

WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO NIGEL, NIGEL?

Grumble, grumble, a man's got a right to believe grumble grumble got those facts from a reliable source, grumble, grumble WHAT'S THIS COUNTRY COMING TO?



Seriously, it boggles my mind that no matter how much I hate the yahoos, I still soak up some of their propaganda.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

I know that's true of Asian immigrants, but WHO figures don't back that up for Mexican immigrants.

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C=mex

ZANG!

Another truism slain by an ugly fact.

WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO NIGEL, NIGEL?

Grumble, grumble, a man's got a right to believe grumble grumble got those facts from a reliable source, grumble, grumble WHAT'S THIS COUNTRY COMING TO?



Seriously, it boggles my mind that no matter how much I hate the yahoos, I still soak up some of their propaganda.

We all do!

I appreciate that you accept me for who I am and don't get all pissed at me.

Also, my hobby is reading WHO and CDC reports. It's why I decided to go to school for what I'll eventually be studying.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Speaking of school, oh shit, I gotta run! See you all in four hours!