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Started by Cain, March 20, 2012, 08:51:51 PM

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Cain

You can only have abortions up to 12 weeks into a pregnancy in Mexico, though, and it is banned entirely in 13 of 31 states.

Oysters Rockefeller

I feel a little better now.


Not much, but a little.
Well, my gynecologist committed suicide...
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I'm nothing if not kind of ridiculous and a little hard to take seriously.
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Moar liek Oysters Cockefeller, amirite?!

navkat

Thank you, jesus. Mexico is soooo back alley. If you want the best work done, I know a guy in LA who is the the absolute best. I go to him all the time. If you mention my name, he'll give you a nice quote.

I have an appointment with him next month. I'll bring home a brochure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on April 05, 2012, 02:01:46 PM
You can only have abortions up to 12 weeks into a pregnancy in Mexico, though, and it is banned entirely in 13 of 31 states.

Damn Catholics!  :argh!:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans. Within a couple of years, though, due to the poor dietary options and lack of health care, their health declines to become worse than average for natural-born US citizens. (They still have healthier babies and lower maternal death, though. Nobody is really sure what that's all about.)
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


navkat

The jury's still out on this for me, but there's a movement about the medical industry pushing unnecessary pregnancy related procedures and that the way we handle pregnancy and labor in this country (as another industry) affecs everything from birthweight to c-section rate to infant death.

I don't know if I believe our problem is that we all need to stop shaving, put a blow up pool in the livingroom, forego the epidural and hire a doula--I tend to liken the anti-hospital moms with the anti-immunization moms--but there's something wrong with our numbers here.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Yes; the worst thing that ever happened to childbirth in this country was medicalization. Infant and maternal mortality skyrocketed, and while they declined significantly once doctors figured out that whole "washing their hands after mucking around in infected wounds" bit, they're still far too high and the main reason is probably a combination of excessive pathologization of a healthy and normal process, and of locating birth centers in hospitals, with all of their attendant risks.

Ideally, birth centers should be completely separate buildings from hospitals, and be primarily staffed with midwives, with staff MDs available if necessary.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:00:13 PM
Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.
Molon Lube

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:00:13 PM
Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans. Within a couple of years, though, due to the poor dietary options and lack of health care, their health declines to become worse than average for natural-born US citizens. (They still have healthier babies and lower maternal death, though. Nobody is really sure what that's all about.)

Some of it might be dietary, too. One of my friends married a guy from Chihuahua and he did all the cooking because he enjoyed it and he was good/i] at it. He never fried anything or used ground meat, for taco meat he'd buy a round steak and cut it up and boil it. He used corn tortillas, never flour, made fresh salsa every evening (there was always some left over for breakfast tacos) and always included a lot of veggies. His one vice was beer, but he stayed whippet thin. I used to love eating over there, except when he made fish head soup.  :lol:
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:00:13 PM
Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

I know that's true of Asian immigrants, but WHO figures don't back that up for Mexican immigrants.

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C=mex
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:00:13 PM
Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

I know that's true of Asian immigrants, but WHO figures don't back that up for Mexican immigrants.

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C=mex

ZANG!

Another truism slain by an ugly fact.

WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO NIGEL, NIGEL?
Molon Lube

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:00:13 PM
Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

I know that's true of Asian immigrants, but WHO figures don't back that up for Mexican immigrants.

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C=mex

ZANG!

Another truism slain by an ugly fact.

WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO NIGEL, NIGEL?

:oops:

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:00:13 PM
Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

I know that's true of Asian immigrants, but WHO figures don't back that up for Mexican immigrants.

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C=mex

ZANG!

Another truism slain by an ugly fact.

WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO NIGEL, NIGEL?

:oops:

Grumble, grumble, a man's got a right to believe grumble grumble got those facts from a reliable source, grumble, grumble WHAT'S THIS COUNTRY COMING TO?

:lulz:

Seriously, it boggles my mind that no matter how much I hate the yahoos, I still soak up some of their propaganda.
Molon Lube

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2012, 04:00:13 PM
Fun fact: Mexican immigrants come into the US in far superior health, on average, to Americans.

Well, except for a much higher incidence of polio & TB.

I know that's true of Asian immigrants, but WHO figures don't back that up for Mexican immigrants.

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/countryprofileresult.cfm?C=mex

ZANG!

Another truism slain by an ugly fact.

WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO NIGEL, NIGEL?

:oops:

Grumble, grumble, a man's got a right to believe grumble grumble got those facts from a reliable source, grumble, grumble WHAT'S THIS COUNTRY COMING TO?

:lulz:

Seriously, it boggles my mind that no matter how much I hate the yahoos, I still soak up some of their propaganda.

We all do!

I appreciate that you accept me for who I am and don't get all pissed at me.

Also, my hobby is reading WHO and CDC reports. :lol: It's why I decided to go to school for what I'll eventually be studying.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Speaking of school, oh shit, I gotta run! See you all in four hours!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."