Moving into your new house while black - the latest crime

[Cain]

I for one applaud these community-minded citizens for standing their ground and defending property against nefarious unknown interlopers

http://www.ajc.com/news/couple-held-at-gunpoint-1423138.html

The Newton County Sheriff's Office is investigating why a couple was confronted at gunpoint by neighbors and then arrested and forced to spend the night in jail when they tried to move into the home they had just purchased, Channel 2 Action News reported.

The Kalonji family had just closed on a foreclosed home and were told by their real estate agent they should go over to the house and change the locks.

But when Jean Kalonji and his wife, Angelica, started working at the home, an armed man and another person who appeared to be the man's son allegedly confronted them.

"He say to put the hands up and get out from the house, otherwise he would shoot us," the husband told Channel 2.

The neighbors didn't believe the couple when they told them they had bought the home and called the Newton County Sheriff's Office. The Kalonjis didn't have the closing papers with them, so deputies arrested them, charged them with loitering and prowling and took them to jail.

Obviously just one big mistake, but you can see how it could happen.  I mean, black people, owning property?  Clearly ludicrous.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Are they going to keep the house? Sound like a friendly neighborhood. I mean they already know two of their neighbors.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Holy shit!

Wow.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I will say, they probably technically should have had some kind of documentation on them. HOWEVER, it wouldn't have been an issue if they had been white. The fact that the sherriff's office ARRESTED them rather than simply recording their IDs and walking away is fucking flooring.

[trippinprincezz13]

I know it's the south, and the way things seem to be going, I really shouldn't be surprised, but the lack of subtlety in their racism is still kind of shocking. Maybe this is just par for the course down there (not that it makes it better), or maybe the racism isn't as obvious up here since it's more mixed/integrated, but I just don't see this kind of thing happening around here. Maybe farther north in middle of nowhere New Hampshire. I know, the South.

Granted, I'd probably carry around the closing papers with me since I'd probably assume someone might assume I'm breaking in, but I'm just paranoid

[navkat]

Are they going to keep the house? Sound like a friendly neighborhood. I mean they already know two of their neighbors.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Trippin- i might remind you about the incident that lead to the beer summit.

[navkat]

I know it's the south, and the way things seem to be going, I really shouldn't be surprised, but the lack of subtlety in their racism is still kind of shocking. Maybe this is just par for the course down there (not that it makes it better), or maybe the racism isn't as obvious up here since it's more mixed/integrated, but I just don't see this kind of thing happening around here. Maybe farther north in middle of nowhere New Hampshire. I know, the South.

Granted, I'd probably carry around the closing papers with me since I'd probably assume someone might assume I'm breaking in, but I'm just paranoid

This is the endgame of rule 34. This is what happens when you allow every psychotic freak unbridled freedom to indulge their every depraved belief or fantasy. If people can dress up like anthropomorphic chickens and fuck each other in diapers, racism ceases to seem so "weird." That's part of my theory.

The other part is borne of something Cain said in the Islam thread: We have completely stopped socially pressuring people to stop being assholes. We shrug and go "Well, everyone has an opinion, I guess."

Time for another LA Riot?

I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT. YOU HEAR ME, US GOVERNMENT? I PAY MY TAXES AND AM AGAINST VIOLENT UPRISING! I AM OBEDIENT AND WOULD NEVER CONDONE THE USE OF FORCE BY ANYONE NOT ON THE GOVERNMENT PAYROLL TO ACHIEVE SOCIAL CHANGE.

[Triple Zero]

I will say, they probably technically should have had some kind of documentation on them.

Really? I'm not sure how this works over there, but shouldn't being in possession of the keys to a house be enough proof that it's your place (or at least that the owner saw fit to trust you with the keys).

They were changing the locks, but I assume they had received the keys to the old locks? and didn't just show up with tools or a crowbar or something and started changing the locks? If the latter, then yes, without having keys to show for, I'd make sure to bring some kind of paper evidence to show I'm allowed to be messing around my own house.

But keys should be enough no? If someone sees me entering my house, how do they know it's mine? Because I'm not breaking in, I'm using a key. If someone sees me removing the chain and ring-lock from my bicycle, how do they know it's my bike and I'm not stealing it? Because I'm not using an angle grinder to unlock the bike, but my keys.

Also, aren't the actions of both the neighbours and the police punishable as blatant racism, given this would in no way have happened if a similarly dressed middle-aged white couple would have arrived? (I mean, if you can throw people in jail for "loitering", surely there's rules against holding your new neighbours at gunpoint because they're black?)

Hey at least they weren't shot, or something.

[navkat]

Yeah, I'm with Zilch on this one. It takes a lot of paperwork and calls back to the office to take a couple away in bracelets. They could have easily tried to call the realtor or verify somehow. This stinks.

[Doktor Howl]

I know it's the south, and the way things seem to be going, I really shouldn't be surprised, but the lack of subtlety in their racism is still kind of shocking. Maybe this is just par for the course down there (not that it makes it better), or maybe the racism isn't as obvious up here since it's more mixed/integrated, but I just don't see this kind of thing happening around here. Maybe farther north in middle of nowhere New Hampshire. I know, the South.

Granted, I'd probably carry around the closing papers with me since I'd probably assume someone might assume I'm breaking in, but I'm just paranoid

This is the endgame of rule 34. This is what happens when you allow every psychotic freak unbridled freedom to indulge their every depraved belief or fantasy. If people can dress up like anthropomorphic chickens and fuck each other in diapers, racism ceases to seem so "weird." That's part of my theory.

The other part is borne of something Cain said in the Islam thread: We have completely stopped socially pressuring people to stop being assholes. We shrug and go "Well, everyone has an opinion, I guess."

Time for another LA Riot?

I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT. YOU HEAR ME, US GOVERNMENT? I PAY MY TAXES AND AM AGAINST VIOLENT UPRISING! I AM OBEDIENT AND WOULD NEVER CONDONE THE USE OF FORCE BY ANYONE NOT ON THE GOVERNMENT PAYROLL TO ACHIEVE SOCIAL CHANGE.

I, on the other hand, enjoy driving like a maniac, using firearms irresponsibly, and I advocate the destabilization of the state, just for cheap laughs.

Dok,
Doesn't afraid of NOBODY.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I will say, they probably technically should have had some kind of documentation on them.

Really? I'm not sure how this works over there, but shouldn't being in possession of the keys to a house be enough proof that it's your place (or at least that the owner saw fit to trust you with the keys).

They were changing the locks, but I assume they had received the keys to the old locks? and didn't just show up with tools or a crowbar or something and started changing the locks? If the latter, then yes, without having keys to show for, I'd make sure to bring some kind of paper evidence to show I'm allowed to be messing around my own house.

But keys should be enough no? If someone sees me entering my house, how do they know it's mine? Because I'm not breaking in, I'm using a key. If someone sees me removing the chain and ring-lock from my bicycle, how do they know it's my bike and I'm not stealing it? Because I'm not using an angle grinder to unlock the bike, but my keys.

Also, aren't the actions of both the neighbours and the police punishable as blatant racism, given this would in no way have happened if a similarly dressed middle-aged white couple would have arrived? (I mean, if you can throw people in jail for "loitering", surely there's rules against holding your new neighbours at gunpoint because they're black?)

Hey at least they weren't shot, or something.

These aren't normal people, trip - these are AMURRIKUNZ!

[Doktor Howl]

Kalonji, who grew up in the Congo, said the experience brought back painful memories.

"There, they put me down with the gun to my head, and come here, the same," he said.

MEET THE NEW BOSS, SAME AS THE OLD BOSS!  WELCOME TO AMERICA, MR KALONJI!

Mark Mitchell, spokesman for the Newton Sheriff's Office, said authorities are "looking into it, exactly what occurred, why it occurred."

BECAUSE GEORGIA, THAT'S WHY. 

A person at the neighbors' house said no one wanted to talk to Channel 2 about the incident.

These People are obviously not serious about having a good time.

[trippinprincezz13]

Trippin- i might remind you about the incident that lead to the beer summit.

I stand corrected. Do remember that now. Goes to show how quickly something can pass when the news is constantly shoving "today's big story", relevant or not, down everyone's throats. On that note, the time the police came to my boss's house because the security alarm was going off and I was there trying to fix it since the power had gone out. After explaining the situation and having them talk to my boss's wife on the phone, they let me be (though they did wait outside til I left just be sure I didn't take anything) . I have a feeling it probably would have gone less friendly had I not been white (and probably, female).

I suppose I do try to optomistic about people despite how awful I know they can be.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Europeans arent much better pent. Hell you original white people treat other white people like dirt just because theyre from a different part of the forest. Ever hear an irishman caomplain about all the poles taking there jerbs? Its kinda funny in a way. Though it seems like the brits do that too. The officials at heathrow seemed to think that i was trying to illegally immigrate from the us. Made me want to jokingly take the attitude that america is the best country in the world and you english types speak american funny.