Are we walking towards a dystopia?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

I'll buy that....if we're talking about the literal translation of Utopia.

True enough.

Pol Pot was a Utopian.

[Cain]

I was thinking more Thomas More.

[NewSpag]

No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

"Utopia," only in the sense that there won't be any people around to fuck things up and be horrible to each other. Because there won't be any people.

I meant "Utopia" in the sense that a utopia or dystopia is merely a label we assign the world based on our set of beliefs (every utopia is someone's dystopia and vice versa).  But I like your explanation better.

[Oysters Rockefeller]

No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

I'll buy that....if we're talking about the literal translation of Utopia.

True enough.

Pol Pot was a Utopian.

[Doktor Howl]

No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

I'll buy that....if we're talking about the literal translation of Utopia.

True enough.

Pol Pot was a Utopian.

All Utopias are built on a foundation of skulls.

[Oysters Rockefeller]

No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

I'll buy that....if we're talking about the literal translation of Utopia.

True enough.

Pol Pot was a Utopian.

All Utopias are built on a foundation of skulls.

Well, that just seems like it wouldn't be up to code.

Really though, it had never occurred to me until this thread that most dictatorships have been the result of utopian ideals. Very interesting.

[Doktor Howl]

No. We are marching towards a Utopia.  You just haven't realised it yet.

I'll buy that....if we're talking about the literal translation of Utopia.

True enough.

Pol Pot was a Utopian.

All Utopias are built on a foundation of skulls.

Well, that just seems like it wouldn't be up to code.

Really though, it had never occurred to me until this thread that most dictatorships have been the result of utopian ideals. Very interesting.

Yeah, and everything would have been PERFECT without those DISSENTING TROUBLEMAKERS that didn't see the GENIUS of the vision!

So we had to march them out in a field and machine gun them.  For the benefit of the Good Citizens.

[Mistre]

For our own protection, aye?

[Deepthroat Chopra]

I thought Bush/Cheney and co were Utopians. Somehow, the Middle east was going to magically transfer to Westminster style democracy and Massachusets Town Hall meetings if only our well-meaning countries got together and bombed the fuckery out of Iraq and the Afghans. Flowers would be thrown at the feet of soldiers. Oh, and as an aside, Halliburton would make shit-loads of $$$ re-building this Utopia.

Why didn't those stupid mid-Easterners get this?

[NewSpag]

I thought Bush/Cheney and co were Utopians. Somehow, the Middle east was going to magically transfer to Westminster style democracy and Massachusets Town Hall meetings if only our well-meaning countries got together and bombed the fuckery out of Iraq and the Afghans. Flowers would be thrown at the feet of soldiers. Oh, and as an aside, Halliburton would make shit-loads of $$$ re-building this Utopia.

Why didn't those stupid mid-Easterners get this?

Because all Muslims are EEEEVVVILLLL 

[Doktor Howl]

I thought Bush/Cheney and co were Utopians. Somehow, the Middle east was going to magically transfer to Westminster style democracy and Massachusets Town Hall meetings if only our well-meaning countries got together and bombed the fuckery out of Iraq and the Afghans. Flowers would be thrown at the feet of soldiers. Oh, and as an aside, Halliburton would make shit-loads of $$$ re-building this Utopia.

Why didn't those stupid mid-Easterners get this?

They didn't kill enough of the troublemakers.

[Doktor Howl]

For our own protection, aye?

No, for the protection of the Good People.

You and I are dead fucking meat.   

[Deepthroat Chopra]

I thought Bush/Cheney and co were Utopians. Somehow, the Middle east was going to magically transfer to Westminster style democracy and Massachusets Town Hall meetings if only our well-meaning countries got together and bombed the fuckery out of Iraq and the Afghans. Flowers would be thrown at the feet of soldiers. Oh, and as an aside, Halliburton would make shit-loads of $$$ re-building this Utopia.

Why didn't those stupid mid-Easterners get this?

They didn't kill enough of the troublemakers.

Then, Hitler. He envisioned a Utopia. Just so happened to get there, one side of my ancestry needed to be completely wiped from Europe. And maybe the Irish side as well, as well as the Jews, Romany, disabled....

But then, WOO! What a party they would have thrown.

[navkat]

I have important, secret news for you. Lean close and I'll whisper it in your ear. Ready, baby?


EVERYONE IS A UTOPIAN!!!!!

It's true. Ask anyone and they'll tell you their vision of perfect perfected perfectioness. And you know what else? We're all full of shit.

SHIT! WALLOW IN IT! IT'S LIKE JELL-O, EVERYONE HAS ROOM FOR MOAR.

[Deepthroat Chopra]

I gave Utopianism up for lent. And ate fish instead. I've kept the habit up after Easter. Thanks for the secret though. Love hearing other people's secrets.