Things you HATE

[Trivial]

They got them to not blow up the earth, or kill the main characters after realising they drove the one character that was part of their "family" to suicide

It was only suicide as far as they were aware for thousands of years...(actually they thought it was the up-and-coming rebel leader [who happened to actually be her] killing her but whatevs, let's roll with it). What it actually was was that "family" member faking her death to go relax on the moist mud ball she once called a colony. Once the fleshy human reincarnation of that family member got involved in things, the Diamonds knew she didn't actually die, so the idea that she killed herself is moot. And I feel like there's an important difference between "being dead to people" and "actually being dead".

Um, did you see Change Your Mind yet?

[Al Qədic]

Um, did you see Change Your Mind yet?

Yeah...I fail to see how that episode addresses that, beyond going into the "White controls a very dysfunctional family" thing, and the creepy "she's gone" scream by pink Steven spirit thing. She's "gone" in the sense that she'll never show up again as the same Pink that the Diamonds all knew and tolerated loved, with the same memories. But Steven's gem is still her gem, and his increasing hallucinations/flashbacks/whatever of her past only solidifies in my mind that for all intents and purposes, she's not truly "dead"

...I dunno man, I'm tired and hopped up on sweet, sweet 50% dark chocolate. The attempt at sympathy because the Nazis close down the gas chambers when they realize their precious lil sis is back for them to berate and lock in a room just doesn't cut it for me. Though I was surprised that Yellow and Blue didn't feel too rushed into their newfound "on-the-right-side-of-history" good person statuses.

Also, on another tangent, I kinda hated how forced the "Garnet fuses and then everyone else rushes to Stevonnie's defense, thus getting the kids thrown in a jail cell" thing was. Stevonnie could have unfused easily. Heck, I'd think they'd get so flustered in the moment that they wouldn't maintain form. I can buy Garnet getting too pissed off to abide tradition, but when everyone else joins in I'm like "nope. Even you clods are usually smarter than this". But I guess they just had to hold the idiot ball for a minute. 

[Trivial]

Um, did you see Change Your Mind yet?

Yeah...I fail to see how that episode addresses that, beyond going into the "White controls a very dysfunctional family" thing, and the creepy "she's gone" scream by pink Steven spirit thing. She's "gone" in the sense that she'll never show up again as the same Pink that the Diamonds all knew and tolerated loved, with the same memories. But Steven's gem is still her gem, and his increasing hallucinations/flashbacks/whatever of her past only solidifies in my mind that for all intents and purposes, she's not truly "dead"

...I dunno man, I'm tired and hopped up on sweet, sweet 50% dark chocolate. The attempt at sympathy because the Nazis close down the gas chambers when they realize their precious lil sis is back for them to berate and lock in a room just doesn't cut it for me. Though I was surprised that Yellow and Blue didn't feel too rushed into their newfound "on-the-right-side-of-history" good person statuses.

Also, on another tangent, I kinda hated how forced the "Garnet fuses and then everyone else rushes to Stevonnie's defense, thus getting the kids thrown in a jail cell" thing was. Stevonnie could have unfused easily. Heck, I'd think they'd get so flustered in the moment that they wouldn't maintain form. I can buy Garnet getting too pissed off to abide tradition, but when everyone else joins in I'm like "nope. Even you clods are usually smarter than this". But I guess they just had to hold the idiot ball for a minute. 

I didn't want to go farther if you hadn't seen the episode, because what you said fit for Blue, but not White.  I smushed the suicide thing together because my prior answer really wasn't for you, it was for someone that probably wouldn't ever see the show.

It's not for you to think she's dead, it's for the Diamonds to think so, and for the writers to convince us they think so.  You're answering the is Pink still alive for yourself.
Which was my point of how they were turned, they had to see how miserable Pink was and feel some empathy.  You can argue about whether the writers did that well or not.

I'm not sure how else the show could have gone, given they were pretty much anti-kill the whole run and it was unlikely they wanted to change Steven in that way.  Steven had empathy for like everything the whole show, starting with acid squirting centipede monsters.  Hell he had a ptsd episode about poofing Jasper.

So the writers were stuck with the White had to realise she could be wrong.  Also they needed White to fix the corrupted gems, can't do that if she's dead.

Summary of "undeserved redemption arc"
So like they thought Pink was murdered by Rose - try to kill Earth. 
The only thing keeping earth safe was they thought it was dead.
They find out it's not dead, come back for murder.
Learned Pink was Rose - Don't kill earth, bring "Pink" back. 
Try to force Pink to be perfect which never worked. Lock in room.
Get Blue to see that what they were doing was torture to Pink, and why she faked death. Get Blue on side.  Sure, still not addressing the whole murdery part of Blue, but you know kids show and time.
Get Blue to fight, then convince Yellow and I'm forgetting what got Yellow on side, have to rewatch that.
Creepy White mind control scene.  White will try to "fix" all the mistakes by mindcontrolling them.
White thinks Pink is just hiding out in Steven.  Does get Steven to second guess he's his own person due to memories thing how she know this is odd but whatever.
Pulls gem out and you get creepy gem Steven.  Human Steven is dying.  Creepy she's gone statement.
White learns she's wrong, convinced Pink is Steven.  Pink is dead.  That was my suicide bit. 
Steven laughs to see he's been himself all along, fused back together.

Now this is my conjecture, but they realised Pink is gone and did this to herself because she hated everything, you see them talking with no heard dialog.  The White being "good" thing is rushed, but this seemed to be written to end the show and I'm not sure how they'd get that done in that bit of time.  Then we got the friendship for the win thing where we have the end of the episode with them fixing all the corrupted gems and then leaving.  Not exactly hanging around to to be all we're a happy family. 


The idiot ball with Garnet is a thing, but it was another emphasizing the whole how outgunned they were.  Also Garnet sees the future so, possibly on purpose (at least that's how they can explain it away).  She wasn't going there originally because she couldn't go as Garnet. 

There were fights and convincing and a whole hour long special for turning them so it wasn't meant to be perceived as a quick change. 

We're getting a lot of this redeem the enemy in shows now because the evil for the sake of evil was played out a ton before.  Now we're in the understand your enemies bit and fix them.  The next trend in stories should be understand enemies that need understanding, but when you see evil that is just evil, kill it.

And now there's another season and a movie, so maybe they'll address that.

[Trivial]

I hate that I forgot and then remembered the whole trend of evil is evil, but never really hurt them in cartoons.

[hooplala]

I hate:

Tim Hortons.
Country music.

Never had Tim Hortons, on account of being a filthy American, but what's wrong with them?
I agree on country music though.  I'll take Scots and their bagpipes before Rednecks and their..."love stories".

Tim Hortons is sort of a creeping pestilence, but with doughnuts.  They're everywhere, and they try to brand themselves as part of the Canadian identity.  I'm not much of a patriot, but I don't like being involuntarily assigned a corporate affiliation.  Franchises like this also have a tendency to suppress independent local coffee and tea shops (also see: Starbucks).

There was a fluffle about a year ago when Ontario raised their minimum wage, and Tim Hortons corrected for this by reducing employee benefits rather than adjusting prices.  It didn't help their popularity much.

I don't dislike their doughnuts, but their tea is oversteeped, and bitter.

I can't remember, is being counter-culture "in" or "out" this season?

That was a single TH franchise, but having said that, since they stopped making their donuts in-house its been a pretty steady decline. At some point they decided their direct competition was Subway (wut) and decided to direct all their energy into half-assed sandwiches.

And I also hate their attempt to be "the most Canadian", it borders on offensive. Don't tell me I love Tim Horton's and hockey: I do not.

[Bruno]

Re: Al Qədic; Re: Steven Universe:

Aiight Den.

Re: This thread; Re: Things I hate:

1.)Cancer
2.)Whistling
3.)The lack of scientific evidence that whistling causes cancer.

[Doktor Howl]

I hate primates.  Stupid fuckers are only technically vertebrates, and they shit on everything that comes within reach.

I hate water.  It doesn't feel the need to follow the rules all the other chemicals follow, and it is nothing but madness, horror, and death.  We'd be better off without it.

[Trivial]

I hate primates.  Stupid fuckers are only technically vertebrates, and they shit on everything that comes within reach.

I hate water.  It doesn't feel the need to follow the rules all the other chemicals follow, and it is nothing but madness, horror, and death.  We'd be better off without it.

FUCKING STEAM TABLES DAMNIT 

[Doktor Howl]

I hate primates.  Stupid fuckers are only technically vertebrates, and they shit on everything that comes within reach.

I hate water.  It doesn't feel the need to follow the rules all the other chemicals follow, and it is nothing but madness, horror, and death.  We'd be better off without it.

FUCKING STEAM TABLES DAMNIT 

OH FUCK YES FUCK YOU STEAM EXPANSION CALCULATIONS YOU LYING FUCKERS

[chaotic neutral observer]

Most materials contract when they freeze.  But not water.  No, water has to be special, and break everything.

[Doktor Howl]

Most materials contract when they freeze.  But not water.  No, water has to be special, and break everything.

Also who the fuck ordered a universal solvent?  Not THIS kid! 

[Bruno]

I hate primates.  Stupid fuckers are only technically vertebrates, and they shit on everything that comes within reach.

I hate water.  It doesn't feel the need to follow the rules all the other chemicals follow, and it is nothing but madness, horror, and death.  We'd be better off without it.

FUCKING STEAM TABLES DAMNIT 

OH FUCK YES FUCK YOU STEAM EXPANSION CALCULATIONS YOU LYING FUCKERS

WHY IS WATER SO BAD AT MATH?

[Doktor Howl]

I hate Louis C.K.

https://people.com/tv/louis-ck-mocks-parkland-shooting-survivors-report/

Rebuttal from parent of Parkland student:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/parkland-dad-creates-stand-up-retort-to-louis-cks-mocking-of-school-shooting-survivors/ar-BBTb1og?ocid=spartanntp

[LMNO]

Yeah, Louis' downward arc has really been disappointing.  Some of his work was amazing, but I can't won't support anything he's done at this point.

[Doktor Howl]

Yeah, Louis' downward arc has really been disappointing.  Some of his work was amazing, but I can't won't support anything he's done at this point.

He's starting to resemble a meaner version of late Andy Kaufman.