DEA casually leave 24 y/o UCSD student in cell for 5 days to drink own urine

Started by navkat, May 02, 2012, 02:57:09 PM

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Telarus

You mean that the entire world could Pollice verso via Facebook likes?

Except instead of some singing competition it's two "drug offenders" in an oubliette with "accidental meth" and a webcam?



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Quote from: Telarus on May 02, 2012, 05:34:52 PM
You mean that the entire world could via Facebook likes?

Except instead of some singing competition it's two "drug offenders" in an oubliette with "accidental meth" and a webcam?



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i'd watch it.

AFK

Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 02, 2012, 03:00:57 PM
You have to expect some casualties in The War on Drugs.

"Oh, we accidentally left him in a cell with meth for 5 days."  Eggs, omelets.

I for one, am glad that we are doing all we can to stomp out the scourge of drugs in America, even if it means that we have to essentially bury people alive with said drugs.  As a lesson to the others.

Yes, prohibition is the only possible route.  We have to show these little fuckers who the boss is.

Or they might hurt themselves or something.


Meh, I don't think this was any kind of concerted "lesson".  It's egregious human and systems error to be sure, and every single agent involved should lose their job, at a minimum.  But I, probably not surprisingly, disagree with using this incident to paint the entire effort in the US to reduce substance abuse.
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I dunno, seems like a pretty good metaphor for the whole clusterfucking thing to me.
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Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on May 03, 2012, 12:28:49 AM
I dunno, seems like a pretty good metaphor for the whole clusterfucking thing to me.

"OVERFUNDED, OVERZEALOUS GOVERNMENT AGENCY GETS CARRIED AWAY. UNREASONABLY DETAINS AMERICAN PUBLIC AND FORGETS ABOUT THEM, LEAVING THEM BROKE, DEHYDRATED AND STARVING IN A POOL OF THEIR OWN FILTH WITH NO ACCESS TO ADEQUATE MEDICAL CARE AND ONLY THE VERY DRUGS THEY ARE BEING PAID TO ELIMINATE AS SUSTENANCE.

IN OTHER NEWS, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ANNOUNCES A NEW ROUND OF PAY RAISES FOR ALL DOD EMPLOYEES..."

AFK

Eh, I've worked with plenty of good joes from the DEA.  None of them would have left someone like that. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

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Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on May 03, 2012, 03:04:15 AM
Eh, I've worked with plenty of good joes from the DEA.  None of them would have left someone like that.

Or they give you the impression that they wouldn't OR they aren't assigned to anything that would put them in that situation so as to preserve the image of the DEA.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on May 03, 2012, 12:24:38 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 02, 2012, 03:00:57 PM
You have to expect some casualties in The War on Drugs.

"Oh, we accidentally left him in a cell with meth for 5 days."  Eggs, omelets.

I for one, am glad that we are doing all we can to stomp out the scourge of drugs in America, even if it means that we have to essentially bury people alive with said drugs.  As a lesson to the others.

Yes, prohibition is the only possible route.  We have to show these little fuckers who the boss is.

Or they might hurt themselves or something.


Meh, I don't think this was any kind of concerted "lesson".  It's egregious human and systems error to be sure, and every single agent involved should lose their job, at a minimum.  But I, probably not surprisingly, disagree with using this incident to paint the entire effort in the US to reduce substance abuse.

Actually, I prefer to use it to paint the seemingly endless policing agencies that operate with little or no oversight, and hire dumbasses who'd look more natural in jodpurs and jackboots.  The DEA, INS, etc.  There are too many different cops, and not enough, you know, rule of law.
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navkat

Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2012, 03:24:46 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on May 03, 2012, 12:24:38 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 02, 2012, 03:00:57 PM
You have to expect some casualties in The War on Drugs.

"Oh, we accidentally left him in a cell with meth for 5 days."  Eggs, omelets.

I for one, am glad that we are doing all we can to stomp out the scourge of drugs in America, even if it means that we have to essentially bury people alive with said drugs.  As a lesson to the others.

Yes, prohibition is the only possible route.  We have to show these little fuckers who the boss is.

Or they might hurt themselves or something.


Meh, I don't think this was any kind of concerted "lesson".  It's egregious human and systems error to be sure, and every single agent involved should lose their job, at a minimum.  But I, probably not surprisingly, disagree with using this incident to paint the entire effort in the US to reduce substance abuse.

Actually, I prefer to use it to paint the seemingly endless policing agencies that operate with little or no oversight, and hire dumbasses who'd look more natural in jodpurs and jackboots.  The DEA, INS, etc.  There are too many different cops, and not enough, you know, rule of law.

SING IT LIKE YOU IN CHURCH, BROTHA HOWL.

AFK

Quote from: I am a Guru named Coyote on May 03, 2012, 03:22:59 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on May 03, 2012, 03:04:15 AM
Eh, I've worked with plenty of good joes from the DEA.  None of them would have left someone like that.

Or they give you the impression that they wouldn't OR they aren't assigned to anything that would put them in that situation so as to preserve the image of the DEA.

OR, the DEA isn't full of cavalier/incompetent douchebags despite popular opinion. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

AFK

Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2012, 03:24:46 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on May 03, 2012, 12:24:38 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 02, 2012, 03:00:57 PM
You have to expect some casualties in The War on Drugs.

"Oh, we accidentally left him in a cell with meth for 5 days."  Eggs, omelets.

I for one, am glad that we are doing all we can to stomp out the scourge of drugs in America, even if it means that we have to essentially bury people alive with said drugs.  As a lesson to the others.

Yes, prohibition is the only possible route.  We have to show these little fuckers who the boss is.

Or they might hurt themselves or something.


Meh, I don't think this was any kind of concerted "lesson".  It's egregious human and systems error to be sure, and every single agent involved should lose their job, at a minimum.  But I, probably not surprisingly, disagree with using this incident to paint the entire effort in the US to reduce substance abuse.

Actually, I prefer to use it to paint the seemingly endless policing agencies that operate with little or no oversight, and hire dumbasses who'd look more natural in jodpurs and jackboots.  The DEA, INS, etc.  There are too many different cops, and not enough, you know, rule of law.

Or not enough oversite, or inadequate oversight, and if that is the case it definitely needs to be fixed.  However high up the food chain this negligence goes, it should be dealt with.  If the RAIC of that state had some knowledge or involvement, they should be canned as well.  But I just want to balance that with the fact there are plenty of DEA agents out there who are just trying their best to do their job to get drugs out of communities and neighborhoods.  And it isn't all through raids and jackbootery.  I just got done working with the DEA on a very peaceful and effective campaign to get expired Rx drugs out of homes which tend to lead to abuse.  There's a lot more to the DEA than just busting down doors and "cracking eggs". 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on May 03, 2012, 11:00:34 AM
Or not enough oversite, or inadequate oversight, and if that is the case it definitely needs to be fixed.  However high up the food chain this negligence goes, it should be dealt with.

If it were my call, I'd loudly and publicly fire the head of the DEA.  Her replacement will be inclined to root out the rot.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Here's the head of the DEA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Leonhart

Old people should die in pain:

QuoteDuring Leonhart's testimony before the Judiciary Committee, she was questioned by a member of the Committee on Aging, Senator Herb Kohl (D-WI), about her policy for nurses prescribing painkillers for patients in nursing homes. The problem of DEA interference during Leonhart's acting administratorship with the prescription of painkillers by nurses in nursing homes had come before the Committee on Aging.

NO RESEARCH THAT CONTRADICTS OUR RELIGION:

QuoteLeonhart has consistently turned down research into the therapeutic and medicinal benefits of marijuana, and has a track record of undermining state law with regard to legal medical marijuana.

That's not "consistently against the use of medical marijuana", that's "turned down research" into medical marijuana.  We can't have heretics to the cause running around all over the place.
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navkat

Is it "homegrown terrorism" if we bombard her with snail mail and photos of ing old people and cancerous children?

Also, she wants me to die without my ritalin too, apparently. No more short-acting stimulants for us ADD-PI "fakers" allowed, apparently. That's okay, I know how to turn my washing machine into a centrifuge if need be.

Thanks a lot, cunt. Now I might be forced to hoover my shit to maintain therapeutic levels of my medication so I don't do something stupid at work...like completely fail to notice some asshole at the scene holding a shotgun before rushing in to Tx my patient or fail to notice that part of my knee touching some unlucky fucker's hypoperfused wrist before hitting the big, green button on the AED. You know, careless shit we ADD fakers do to scam the system out of a free pass to get high. BRING ON THOSE 900 JOULES, BABY. MAMMA GON' GIT A NEW BOTTLE OF RITALIN!