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A Treatise On Calling People On Their Bullshit.

Started by Pope Pixie Pickle, May 09, 2012, 06:15:28 PM

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LMNO

Quote from: LizKing531 on May 10, 2012, 12:08:18 AM
I see that it only counts if the degredation is in the approved categories

Apparently you don't see the difference between directly saying "I don't like gays" and "I'm using a repurposed word that the majority of people don't link to the (not even original, but adopted) usage."

Yup. I call :troll:

Nephew Twiddleton

Gogira- perfect usage of retahdid

dok- you got a point there but on the brightside it would eradicate those damn micks.

Faust can be spared an evacuated on account of greekness and well need the servers running for pd.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Bruce Twillis on May 10, 2012, 12:21:18 AM
Gogira- perfect usage of retahdid

dok- you got a point there but on the brightside it would eradicate those damn micks.

Faust can be spared an evacuated on account of greekness and well need the servers running for pd.

Balls.  Irishmen can't drown, because water cannot pass their lips.  If you threw them in a barrel of cheap fucking whiskey, they'd be fucked.  Ocean water?  It would just get their silly tweed jackets soggy.
Molon Lube

LizKing531

How am I trolling?

I bring up using the word "retarded". It wasn't directly addressed in the original post, but used later. As someone that is around the disabled community, I happen to know that "retarded" isn't cool - despite what you may think. It may be changing - language is constantly evolving.

In the spirit of the OP - I just wanted to start the conversation about it & was quickly told to fuck off.

So, to get back to it, It's not really up to me to police everyone else for this or that, but as we're talking about speaking up when you hear misogynist jokes or racial quips, I spoke up for something else.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: LizKing531 on May 10, 2012, 12:23:16 AM
How am I trolling?

I bring up using the word "retarded". It wasn't directly addressed in the original post, but used later. As someone that is around the disabled community, I happen to know that "retarded" isn't cool - despite what you may think. It may be changing - language is constantly evolving.

In the spirit of the OP - I just wanted to start the conversation about it & was quickly told to fuck off.

So, to get back to it, It's not really up to me to police everyone else for this or that, but as we're talking about speaking up when you hear misogynist jokes or racial quips, I spoke up for something else.

Sorry, you outed yourself already.  The troll stops working when you do that.
Molon Lube

Nephew Twiddleton

Hey dok- king's an irish last name. Only the irish would be so fucking pretentious to give a royal title for a surname. Fucking irish. I bet this liz here is irish.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Bruce Twillis on May 10, 2012, 12:26:41 AM
Hey dok- king's an irish last name. Only the irish would be so fucking pretentious to give a royal title for a surname. Fucking irish. I bet this liz here is irish.

I didn't smell bog, but you could be right.

The other - much worse - possibility is that he's a Doors fan.
Molon Lube

LMNO

You know what sucks? Cain wrote a brilliant essay on the Yakuza, one thread down, and we're wasting bytes on this retard.

AFK

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 10, 2012, 12:21:13 AM
Quote from: LizKing531 on May 10, 2012, 12:08:18 AM
I see that it only counts if the degredation is in the approved categories

Apparently you don't see the difference between directly saying "I don't like gays" and "I'm using a repurposed word that the majority of people don't link to the (not even original, but adopted) usage."

Yup. I call :troll:


Look, I have no interest in siding with who may or may not be a troll.  I will just respectfully submit that there are still a substantial number of people who still, rightly or wrongly, link 'retarded' to those with developmental disabilities and who do still take offense to the usage of the word.


I have to admit, for my personal sensibilities, I'm not particularly comfortable with that usage either, though I do have some personal connections that colors those sensibilities.  But, I'm also not about to suggest how people should or should not speak.  Free speech and all that.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 10, 2012, 12:31:16 AM
You know what sucks? Cain wrote a brilliant essay on the Yakuza, one thread down, and we're wasting bytes on this retard.

I'm saving that one for tomorrow.  I will have 2 hours with precisely nothing to do, and Cain's posts take some digesting.
Molon Lube

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Pretty much every queer I know uses the word "fag", usually affectionately. "What are you up to, ya fag?" "I was hanging out with a bunch of fags last night..."

Another one is "gay". It CAN be used offensively, but so much depends on context. Something can be gay (pejorative, meaning it's dumb... a word which no longer means "silent", btw) or someone can be gay (non-judgmental, meaning homosexual) or, a person can be gay for someone/something, which has positive connotations. I am totally gay for cones.

If you can't interpret language using context, you are failing at using that language.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 10, 2012, 12:31:16 AM
You know what sucks? Cain wrote a brilliant essay on the Yakuza, one thread down, and we're wasting bytes on this retard.

What makes you think that the replies in this thread are preventing people from replying in that thread?

I am kind of enjoying discussing the changing use of language, even though that's not really the intention of the OP.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Nephew Twiddleton

Im killing time before i head to my aunts place. Im also not in the right headspace to deal with a yakuza thread at the moment. I am however in the mood to rip on filthy irish people. And it did cross my mind that s/he may be a doors fan but its likely that s/he is both.
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Quote from: Bruce Twillis on May 10, 2012, 12:21:18 AM
Gogira- perfect usage of retahdid

dok- you got a point there but on the brightside it would eradicate those damn micks.

Faust can be spared an evacuated on account of greekness and well need the servers running for pd.

The best part is that without tone and non-verbal cues, there's no way to tell if my post was intended as an insult or a compliment.

edited to clarify pronouns

Nephew Twiddleton

I do have a friend that uses the word gay in the sense of retahdid. I tried to reform that too but it didnt work. And you know what? Considering that he started up a "help my neighbor get a sex change" fund i doubt he is in anyway homophobic. So  have at it dude. At least hes not irish.
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS